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FLA. SENATE GETS INTO COMATOSE WOMAN TIFF (AP HEADLINE); SENATE VOTE EXPECTED BY TONIGHT
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 21, 2003 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/21/2003 5:55:07 AM PDT by varina davis

Fla. Senate Gets Into Comatose Woman Tiff

October 21, 2003 07:49 AM EDT

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Florida House lawmakers stepped into the contentious battle over the fate of a brain-damaged woman slowly starving to death, voting the governor new powers to restore her feeding tube.

The Florida Senate scheduled a vote Tuesday on a House-passed bill to let Gov. Jeb Bush intervene in the case of Terri Schiavo, one of the nation's longest and most bitter euthanasia cases.

Schiavo has been at the center of a court battle between her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, and her husband, Michael Schiavo. The parents want Terri Schiavo to live, and her husband says she would rather die.

The Florida Supreme Court has twice refused to hear the case, and it also has been rejected for review by the U.S. Supreme Court. Last week, a Florida appeals court again refused to block removal of the tube.

The House measure would give the state's governor 15 days to order a feeding tube to be reinserted in cases like Schiavo's. The governor's power would be limited to cases where a person has left no living will, is in a persistent vegetative state, has had nutrition and hydration tubes removed and where a family member has challenged the removal.

Bush said in a statement earlier Monday that lawmakers understand the "unique and tragic circumstances of Ms. Schiavo's case, and I am hopeful the Legislature will pass a bill immediately."

The House voted 68-23 for the bill late Monday. The Senate Rules Committee planned to take the bill up Tuesday morning, with the full Senate scheduling a vote by early evening.

George Felos, attorney for Michael Schiavo, said he thinks the legislation would be unconstitutional. He said it is Terri Schiavo's right under the Florida Constitution to not be kept alive artificially.

Court-appointed doctors have described the 39-year-old woman as being in a vegetative state, caused when her heart stopped in 1990 from a suspected chemical imbalance. Her feeding tube was removed Wednesday.

Doctor said she will die in a week to 10 days without the tube.

Schiavo's family members believe she is capable of learning how to eat and drink on her own and say she has shown signs of trying to communicate and could be rehabilitated. Michael Schiavo says he is carrying out his wife's wishes that she not be kept alive artificially.

During a two-hour debate in the House, several Democrats argued that the Constitution doesn't allow the Legislature to give governors the power to overrule the courts.

"This bill so oversteps our role it ... turns democracy on its head," Rep. Dan Gelber said.

But Republicans said that where judges might be wrong, especially in cases like Schiavo's, such legislation is desperately needed.

"The Constitution is supposed to protect the people of this state," said Rep. Sandy Murman. "Who is protecting this girl?"

The House action came hours after a state agency for the disabled asked a U.S. judge in Tampa to keep the woman alive so it could investigate a claim that she is being abused by having the tube removed. The judge was expected to rule as early as Tuesday.


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To: varina davis
Appreciate your link yesterday to the live video. Will it be on again today?

It should be. you can go to the Senate Video Link.
When in session you will see a banner link for the live feed. The only problem is if they convene at a unscheduled time, they may not post the live link. Yesterday I bookmarked the live feed and kept checking it through the day. Yesterdays link was Here, but I do not know if it will be on the channel again. I'll try to stay on top of it.
41 posted on 10/21/2003 6:23:36 AM PDT by WackySam ("There's room for all God's creatures- right next to the taters")
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To: nina0113
God hasn't held her up for this long to drop her now.

You've got more faith than I do.

LQ

42 posted on 10/21/2003 6:23:58 AM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: Congressman Billybob
CBB what is your take on the constitutionality of the Terri law? Seems to me that if there is anything in the FL constitution about protecting the life and/or rights of citizens this should be okay... right? I know you're a Fedguv guy but give us your best read.
43 posted on 10/21/2003 6:24:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: txrangerette
WHY do they use THAT word?!?!?

That is because it's what the Courts have decided

But they also show the video of Terry that shows she is not .. which will get some to ask questions and look into the case

44 posted on 10/21/2003 6:25:03 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: varina davis
Democrats argued that the Constitution doesn't allow the Legislature to give governors the power to overrule the courts.

'We the people' are the final arbiter not the courts, particularly concerning His Fecalness, 'judge' Greer.

45 posted on 10/21/2003 6:25:57 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: varina davis
ABC radio news has been headlining this case at least since 7am today.

Curtis Sliwa and Ron Kuby are talking about this on WABC radio now!

Just posted on another thread:

I'm shocked! Ronnie "the Commie" Kuby (on the WABC-New York Curtis and Kuby radio program) is for saving the life of Terri!

Kuby tells the story of his own father, who was dying of throat cancer. His father at first stated that he "wouldn't want to live without a larynx."

BUT THEN, when it came time to decide whether to have the operation or no, Kuby's father changed his mind and decided he wanted to live!

Kuby notes that Terri's parents have volunteered to care for her, says "we certainly should not starve her to death."

Kuby, the ultra-left pro-choicer, sayS: "In this case we should err on the side of life"

Kuby says:

IF I'M EVER IN A VEGETATIVE STATE, ASSUME i WANT TO LIVE! STAY AWAY FROM THAT PLUG!

46 posted on 10/21/2003 6:26:18 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: NCC-1701
This is truly barbaric. I hope and pray Florida does the right thing in this case. I also hope and pray that her "husband" NEVER gets a penny of the million + for the death of his LEGAL wife.

For all we should care, let Michael get a fortune equal to Bill Gates'. It won't follow him to the judgment seat of God.

47 posted on 10/21/2003 6:26:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Cicero
The word here is that Atty. Felos has the Liberal Media in his back pocket.
48 posted on 10/21/2003 6:30:15 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Freeping from the Hospice where Terri Schiavo is being held prisoner.)
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To: Mo1
That is because it's what the Courts have decided

Actually it's not the "Courts." It's Judge Greer, and Judge Greer alone. Appeals courts can't overturn his "finding of fact," they can only challenge the litigative process.

49 posted on 10/21/2003 6:30:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: NCC-1701
Michael will never get that money. I'm sure the insurance company will do a little investigation of their own, and decide that he was an accessory.
50 posted on 10/21/2003 6:31:47 AM PDT by UnsinkableMollyBrown
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To: WackySam
Thanks Sam. Appreciate the help.
51 posted on 10/21/2003 6:35:38 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: UnsinkableMollyBrown
They are replaying the House meeting last night at www.WFSU.org (click internet and webcam)

Then they will replay the Senate Mtg from this morning.

Here is the sad part of this, and this is from speaking to the reporter at WFSU.org. This bill very well could not effect Terri until tomorrow. Once the bill is signed (will not happen, as of now, until 6:45 meeting of the Senate)it must be signed by the governor and then he can issue the stay, BUT there will be blocks thru the court system by Michael.

In essense, this is FAR from over.. the best thing that can happen to Terri right now is that the House/Senate would issua Guardian AD Litem (sp) for terri until this is decided.


Again, they are showing the feed from the HOuse meeting last night at www.WFSU.org (go to the internet tab, then to the first selection on the pull down bar, webcam)

Blessings~
Heather
52 posted on 10/21/2003 6:37:00 AM PDT by Florida Mama ("My head told me I should let her go, my heart is why she is alive today"- www.Emmas2Hearts.com)
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To: varina davis
BUMP for continued prayers and support
53 posted on 10/21/2003 6:38:26 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: mykdsmom; Tax-chick; Huber; dandelion; pc93
Here are two shots from the Vigil:

Top photo is Vernon Robinson (Congressional Candidate-NC05) and the young lady with the scarf is "TaxDeduction2".

Bottom photo is "TaxDeduction1".

54 posted on 10/21/2003 6:41:22 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Freeping from the Hospice where Terri Schiavo is being held prisoner.)
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To: Florida Mama
BUT there will be blocks thru the court system by Michael.

This man is bent on killing Terri. He has much to hide.

55 posted on 10/21/2003 6:42:56 AM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: varina davis
FLA. SENATE GETS INTO COMATOSE WOMAN TIFF (AP HEADLINE); SENATE VOTE EXPECTED BY TONIGHT

You didn't have to tell us this was an AP headline, it stinks enough to make it's origin known. Another fine example of the kind of manevolent compassion that is typical of liberal socialism. The same kind that doesn't even blink at fifteen thousand deaths of the elderly in a nation the size of Texas.

If fifteen thousand elderly died in Texas due to a heat wave can you imagine the shock and horror from one end of this nation to the other? The accusations and condemnation of conservative leadership and against Rick Perry? Any tool will do for the party of demoncrats who are only capable of a false compassion when it promotes their agenda.

56 posted on 10/21/2003 6:43:07 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: shhrubbery!
Kuby tells the story of his own father, who was dying of throat cancer. His father at first stated that he "wouldn't want to live without a larynx." BUT THEN, when it came time to decide whether to have the operation or no, Kuby's father changed his mind and decided he wanted to live!

That is EXACTLY what my father did. He was set in his mind that he would never want a laryngectomy. When he was told that without it he would die sooner, he chose the laryngectomy. The will to live will make you do things that you swore you would never do.

57 posted on 10/21/2003 6:43:30 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Actually it's not the "Courts." It's Judge Greer, and Judge Greer alone. Appeals courts can't overturn his "finding of fact," they can only challenge the litigative process.

You are correct .. my mistake

58 posted on 10/21/2003 6:46:33 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: MarMema
Received this ping from phenn (for those that don't know, this is Pamela Hennesy, the Schindlers media contact):

"The bill is being pushed back because of language. We need to keep the pressure on. Here are the contact details for Florida's Senate. Please circulate:

http://www.flsenate.gov/Legislators/index.cfm?Mode=Member%20Pages"

Does anyone know what is going on with the Fed. judge that was going to rule on something yesterday?

I'm trying to catch up but don't have much time this morning. The power company is going to change our electric meter this morning and I will be without power for a while. (ARGGG, today of all days!)


59 posted on 10/21/2003 6:48:29 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: ordinaryguy
According to the Senate's home page, they'll convene at 6:45 tonight.

TONIGHT?????? I read last night that they were to convene at 8am today. By stalling this, they are once again NOT acting!!!

60 posted on 10/21/2003 6:48:30 AM PDT by pollywog
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