[Cold Heat]

What do you think of her responsive gestures and moans? Are they not a language?

They can be believed to be,,,,,,or not.

[paulsy]

"They can be believed to be,,,,,,or not."

This is the issue. That reasonable minds might differ, and that the more reasonable minds who are closest to the situation - and many not close at all but distant witnesses - agree that she is indeed communicating. I tend to be cautious in matters of life and death - especially when the powers to adequately bargain the issue are utterly lacking in someone so disabled.

[paulsy]

I'll post this twice, because what you wrote is beyond the comprehension of anyone I know who has seen the video and is actually paying attention to this murder in progress:

I wrote: "What do you think of her responsive gestures and moans? Are they not a language?

You (wirestripper) replied: "They can be believed to be,,,,,,or not."

And I reply again: "...to be,,,,,or not." This IS the issue. That reasonable minds might differ, and that the more reasonable minds who are closest to the situation - and many not close at all but distant witnesses - agree that she is indeed communicating. I tend to be cautious in matters of life and death - especially when the powers to adequately bargain the issue are utterly lacking in someone so disabled.