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| Bob Jones
Posted on 10/17/2003 2:03:11 PM PDT by mr_griz
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To: Spyder
I would like some of those screaming "starvation" to explain to me how pulling a feeding tube is different than pulling a breathing tube. One provides air, one provides food, both are "artificialLook at the title of this thread. How does it feel to make a fool of yourself in public?
Comment #342 Removed by Moderator
To: TheOtherOne
Why do you keep wasting both our time writing me, but failing to actually say anything. Because you are a disruptive troll, and I don't have the ability to nuke your account, you silly boy.
343
posted on
10/18/2003 10:43:18 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: secretagent
Not prominent enough for me, right now. They seem shy of publicity. WTF are you raving about? What the hell do you expect them to do? Storm the studios of CNN with a list of demands?
Pathetic...
344
posted on
10/18/2003 10:44:37 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: wirestripper
hypothetical Ahhhh Yes! Hypothetical threats?
Interesting excuse.
I've never seen the truth dismissed as an "Interesting excuse" before. You wouldn't happen to be a Democrat, would you?
It's either that, or a troll. I guess I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and consider that the jury is still out.
345
posted on
10/18/2003 10:46:19 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: wirestripper
The reality is, that other than the court decisions there is no evidence presented on the internet media for the Michael side of this argument. Are you blind???
Other than WorldNetDaily, a small handfull of other conservative sites, and a few fora such as FR, the totality of the web-carried news media is entirely pro-Michael.
It tells me that this is a manipulated media war instituted by the girls family and that the evidence needed to justify the son in laws position is being withheld due to legal privacy concerns and lawyers advice.
And that statement tells me that you are blind -- or, on a mission.
346
posted on
10/18/2003 10:50:02 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: MHGinTN
Terri is in such danger now that if the governor waits until Monday to step in, she will suffer and decline anyway, but he will look like 'he tried to save her'. IMO that is precisely what he's hoping for.
In other words, his elaborate minuet of "waiting, hoping" is the Country Club rendition of, "When is that bitch gonna die?"
347
posted on
10/18/2003 10:52:09 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: wirestripper
I am not defending the husband except to point out that the court has not removed his legal standing and has not acted on the accusations. Could it be that they are not true?
I am not defending Bill Clinton except to point out that the Senate has not voted to impeach him from the office of President of the United States, and has not acted on the accusations.
Could it be that they are not true?
348
posted on
10/18/2003 10:54:39 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: Jeff Head
This event with Terri is an unbelievably atrocious thing...and it cries out for something to be done. We need Patrick Henry's, John Paul Jones, Nathan Hales, and Oliver Perrys of our day. Unless we get statesmen of that measure elected to office, this country is finished, kaput.
Any attempt to "take it to the streets" will result in an even greater tragedy.
349
posted on
10/18/2003 10:56:15 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: secretagent
For me, nothing presented so far absolutely convicts him. So, because nothing you've seen "absolutely convicts" him, the death sentence must be carried out on her?
Your logic is cold, brutal, and... flawed.
350
posted on
10/18/2003 10:57:45 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: Don Joe
HERE'S my assessment, and I'm not backing down on the indictment until I see evidence otherwise. This governor is F-E-C-K-L-E-S-S and it is becoming more blatant with every passing hour that he sits on his hands while Terri declines.
351
posted on
10/18/2003 10:59:01 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: wirestripper
I know a little bit about law enforcement in Florida, and they are pro's. It is hard for me to believe that in the span of thirteen years, that they could not have built a circumstantial case with these purported claims. Then you don't know much, because "law enforcment" is part of the executive branch, and plays no role in civil litigation -- in the judicial branch -- of the type that is killing this innocent woman.
352
posted on
10/18/2003 10:59:40 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: Jeff Head
"It will not harm him in the least to let her live That is only true if several other things are true. There's a potential chain of dependencies here to choke a horse.
* If he had any part in her "accident", he will be harmed if she lives.
* If he had any part in the "conversion" of funds intended for her rehabilitation, he will be harmed if she lives.
* If he stands to gain financially via insurance money, book or movie revenue, or otherwise, he will be harmed if she lives.
These factors -- any of them, if true -- would IMO create a motive for him to be quite motivated to assist her in not living.
353
posted on
10/18/2003 11:05:00 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: MHGinTN
Respectfully to you, I would contend the courts in Florida are sunk to the near-lowest level with the liberal infestation witnessed so clearly during the 2000 election thievery tried by Gore, et al. Don't let him hijack the debate. He's already reframed it, very artfully. He didn't defend the courts, he reframed it as a defense of law enforcment.
A very dirty debate tactic, generally abhorred except by leftists and their ilk.
354
posted on
10/18/2003 11:08:15 AM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: wirestripper
I was refering to people that were asking the same questions over and over. I do not agree with you that this is a 'family matter'.
355
posted on
10/18/2003 11:35:22 AM PDT
by
sfRummygirl
(SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
To: Don Joe
He wouldn't lose his governorship. Though not the most popular governor, he would not get impeached by the legislature (at least not removed from office). As long as there is life there is hope. My opinion--f**k the florida courts.. They can go to hell where they belong.
i doubt he would even lose his job as governor, no matter what action he took. but if he doesn't take action he'll have blood on his hands...
quite frankly, he talks like wyatt earp, but governs like Fredo Corleone. We need a Sonny, someone who will go to the mattresses on this!!!
356
posted on
10/18/2003 1:11:40 PM PDT
by
Schwaeky
(Lex mala, lex nulla--if the law is bad, then the law is null)
Comment #357 Removed by Moderator
To: MHGinTN
LEGISLATURE.
Will someone please re-post the email/fax of state legislators?
To: Don Joe
From
http://www.cnsnews.com/pdf/2003/aff2.pdf --
affidavit of Carla Sauer Iyer:
"The atmosphere throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo's intimidation. Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be close to Michael, was intimidated by him. Michael Schiavo always had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as 'This is my order and you're going to follow it.' He is very large and uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you, getting right in your face and practically shouting...
"Michael said again and again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no range of motion whatsoever, or anything else...
"Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented by Michael. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as 'mommy,' and 'help me.' 'Help me' was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word 'pain' when she was in discomfort...
"I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart. Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's, someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always demanded to see her chart...The reason I wrote so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurse's job was to accurately record everything...
"Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri's death. He would say 'When is she going to die?' 'Has she died yet?' and 'When is that bitch gonna die?' These statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens...When she wouldn't die, Michael would be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be given information...I recorded Michael's statements word for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the end of my shift.
"Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like, 'Hallelujah! You've made my day!' He would call me, as I was the nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail...and would call back frequently asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out 'I'm going to be rich!' and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died...
When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked...He would typically be there about 20 minutes or so. When he left Terri would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction, so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low it was below the range where it would register an actual number reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it..."
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