Posted on 10/17/2003 2:03:11 PM PDT by mr_griz
They can be believed to be,,,,,,or not.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3141058.stm
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/09/21/Columns/Crusade_is_blind_to_h.shtml
http://thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1066312840821&call_pageid=968867505381&col=969048872038
It's not just the frontal cortex. It's the major part of the whole shee-bang.
By the way, there's a lovely photo of a very young Terri in the BBC article.
Were she to regain her words and tell the story, it would be newly discovered "evidence" and any statute of limitations would not matter. Nevertheless, I do not believe there is a statute of limitations on attempted murder in most states.
Actually he does have legal power to stop this crime. So, no, he is not doing everything in his power to help this family.
He either must be a man and do his duty as governor, or be chicken and suffer the consequences.
This is the issue. That reasonable minds might differ, and that the more reasonable minds who are closest to the situation - and many not close at all but distant witnesses - agree that she is indeed communicating. I tend to be cautious in matters of life and death - especially when the powers to adequately bargain the issue are utterly lacking in someone so disabled.
I think that there is little chance of that ever happening. And it seems that there is nothing but accusations and some doctor who believes that.
Having no access to medical records or no words of defense from the husband, I would have to make the assumption that the authorities looked into the evidence and found nothing. I can make no other assertion.
Apparently the court is satisfied as well.
So, it come down to they say he said. That is what civil courts do, is to determine weigh and likelihood of evidence. They ruled in the husbands favor.
If they are wrong, there seems to be nothing there to change their mind.
I'll admit, that courts are wrong sometimes. justice is not a perfect science and people do evil things.
I wrote: "What do you think of her responsive gestures and moans? Are they not a language?
You (wirestripper) replied: "They can be believed to be,,,,,,or not."
And I reply again: "...to be,,,,,or not." This IS the issue. That reasonable minds might differ, and that the more reasonable minds who are closest to the situation - and many not close at all but distant witnesses - agree that she is indeed communicating. I tend to be cautious in matters of life and death - especially when the powers to adequately bargain the issue are utterly lacking in someone so disabled.
I view it with a grain of salt that it is comprised of love and hope. It is usually nothing more, but I have not seen the girl in person so I cannot be sure what they saw.
Well, from the paragraph below, directly from the article... and if it was 7 years ago, she had been brain damaged for 6 already. That's a long, long time to "give therapy a chance."
That was seven years ago, when Ms. Sauer was a nurse at a rehab facility in Largo, Fla. At that time, Ms. Schiavo was getting physical therapy and full-time attention from skilled nurses. But the facility charged $4,000 a month, as Ms. Sauer recalls, and Mr. Schiavo soon chose to discontinue his wife's therapy and move her into the much cheaper hospice system. She's languished there for six years, tethered to a feeding tube while a fierce legal battle swirled around her.
Terri in happier days.
Looks like they accomplished it with everyone but the court.
I wonder why.
Few of us have. But enough smoke fills the air in this case to give serious pause to reasonable people. These things apparently are not made up: the hard facts of the disturbing status quo and history between husband and wife, the money and motives, the deep and undeniable injuries, the desire to cremate "evidence" after death, the other relationships, the lack of corroborating evidence to support a death wish. And then the video. These are all facts and they smell foul to me and everyone I know. This IS enough to stop things where they are.
Really?? Who would have given the autorization for that?
Michael?....the loving husband that has petitioned to remove all testing and therapy for her
Judge Greer?....who has admitted in writing to not even reading 6 of the 7 doctors report submitted to him
Her parents?....who have fought for years to give her care and have been denied at every turn by the previous two
Just who do you think would have ordered those tests?
By the way I am sorry you have had to go through this. I have too, and I've felt most emotions avialable in the human repertoire. I'll tell you though, there's more than a glimmer of hope in this situation (sans the death warrant).
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