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I'll just add, however, that to some evolutionists, anyone who questions any premise of unguided evolution from abiogenesis to Homo Sapien isn't just not an evolutionist, they're mentally deranged, effectively insane. I find that arrogance even more unreal.

No regular poster on FR regards abiogenesis to be a solved problem. Many evolutionists, including Darwin, accept the possibility that first life involves a miracle.

As for commom descent, go ahead and propose an altenative that makes sense.

"No regular poster on FR regards abiogenesis to be a solved problem. Many evolutionists, including Darwin, accept the possibility that first life involves a miracle."

Right. Note that I was referring to "some" evolutionists. The ones I am referring to are the ones who insist that while the answers to abiogenesis and several of the other unfilled holes in evolutionary theory aren't quite on paper yet, it is absurd, nay, deranged to believe that science won't eventually fill all these holes -without- the need for any sort of intelligent design.

I may have been unclear on that. I'm not claiming that any evolutionists are pretending every hole has been filled. What I'm claiming is that some treat the possibility that any of the holes might be holes because there actually was intelligent design at any stage of the process with utter contempt.

I've never heard a Christian refer to those who don't believe what they believe as insane or mentally deranged. I have heard many evolutionists refer to those who believe in intelligent design that way. Including in this thread.

I don't dispute that "many" who believe that evolution had a part in the whole process have an open mind. But not all evolutionists have open minds. Some are shut just as tight as the 7 day literalists. For them, any modifications to the evolution theory are mere detail - their real point is that they are utterly convinced that intelligent design will certainly be totally disproved, and it's just a matter of time. Which is no less a pure act of Faith than what the 7 day literalists claim.

"As for commom descent, go ahead and propose an altenative that makes sense."

Not sure what you mean by this... I admit I didn't read all 5 pages of this thread though. Can you point me to a particular post?

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