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USO Canteen FReeper Style ~ Fall of the Roman Empire ~ October 14, 2003
Killeenroos.com ^ | October 14, 2003 | LaDivaLoca

Posted on 10/14/2003 1:53:37 AM PDT by LaDivaLoca

 
 
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ANCIENT WARFARE



Fall of the Roman Empire

Reasons for the fall of the Roman Empire
All left Rome open to outside invaders
adapted from History Alive material

There were many reasons for the fall of the Roman Empire. Each one intertwined with the next. Many even blame the introduction of Christianity for the decline. Christianity made many Roman citizens into pacifists, making it more difficult to defend against the barbarian attackers. Also money used to build churches could have been used to maintain the empire. Although some argue that Christianity may have provided some morals and values for a declining civilization and therefore may have actually prolonged the imperial era.

Decline in Morals and Values


Caligula (Gaius Caesar)
 

Those morals and values that kept together the Roman legions and thus the empire could not be maintained towards the end of the empire. Crimes of violence made the streets of the larger cities unsafe. Even during PaxRomana there were 32,000 prostitutes in Rome. Emperors like Nero and Caligula became infamous for wasting money on lavish parties where guests ate and drank until they became ill. The most popular amusement was watching the gladiatorial combats in the Colosseum. These were attended by the poor, the rich, and frequently the emperor himself. As gladiators fought, vicious cries and curses were heard from the audience. One contest after another was staged in the course of a single day. Should the ground become too soaked with blood, it was covered over with a fresh layer of sand and the performance went on.

Public Health


Roman Aqueducts
 

There were many public health and environmental problems. Many of the wealthy had water brought to their homes through lead pipes. Previously the aqueducts had even purified the water but at the end lead pipes were thought to be preferable. The wealthy death rate was very high. The continuous interaction of people at the Colosseum, the blood and death probably spread disease. Those who lived on the streets in continuous contact allowed for an uninterrupted strain of disease much like the homeless in the poorer run shelters of today. Alcohol use increased as well adding to the incompetency of the general public.

Political Corruption



 

One of the most difficult problems was choosing a new emperor. Unlike Greece where transition may not have been smooth but was at least consistent, the Romans never created an effective system to determine how new emperors would be selected. The choice was always open to debate between the old emperor, the Senate, the Praetorian Guard (the emperor's's private army), and the army. Gradually, the Praetorian Guard gained complete authority to choose the new emperor, who rewarded the guard who then became more influential, perpetuating the cycle. Then in 186 A. D. the army strangled the new emperor, the practice began of selling the throne to the highest bidder. During the next 100 years, Rome had 37 different emperors - 25 of whom were removed from office by assassination. This contributed to the overall weaknesses of the empire.

Unemployment



 

During the latter years of the empire farming was done on large estates called latifundia that were owned by wealthy men who used slave labor. A farmer who had to pay workmen could not produce goods as cheaply. Many farmers could not compete with these low prices and lost or sold their farms. This not only undermined the citizen farmer who passed his values to his family, but also filled the cities with unemployed people. At one time, the emperor was importing grain to feed more than 100,000 people in Rome alone. These people were not only a burden but also had little to do but cause trouble and contribute to an ever increasing crime rate.

Inflation



 

The roman economy suffered from inflation (an increase in prices) beginning after the reign of Marcus Aurelius. Once the Romans stopped conquering new lands, the flow of gold into the Roman economy decreased. Yet much gold was being spent by the romans to pay for luxury items. This meant that there was less gold to use in coins. As the amount of gold used in coins decreased, the coins became less valuable. To make up for this loss in value, merchants raised the prices on the goods they sold. Many people stopped using coins and began to barter to get what they needed. Eventually, salaries had to be paid in food and clothing, and taxes were collected in fruits and vegetables.

Urban decay


(archeological site)
 

Wealthy Romans lived in a domus, or house, with marble walls, floors with intricate colored tiles, and windows made of small panes of glass. Most Romans, however, were not rich, They lived in small smelly rooms in apartment houses with six or more stories called islands. Each island covered an entire block. At one time there were 44,000 apartment houses within the city walls of Rome. First-floor apartments were not occupied by the poor since these living quarters rented for about $00 a year. The more shaky wooden stairs a family had to climb, the cheaper the rent became. The upper apartments that the poor rented for $40 a year were hot, dirty, crowed, and dangerous. Anyone who could not pay the rent was forced to move out and live on the crime-infested streets. Because of this cities began to decay.

Inferior Technology



 

During the last 400 years of the empire, the scientific achievements of the Romans were limited almost entirely to engineering and the organization of public services. They built marvelous roads, bridges, and aqueducts. They established the first system of medicine for the benefit of the poor. But since the Romans relied so much on human and animal labor, they failed to invent many new machines or find new technology to produce goods more efficiently. They could not provide enough goods for their growing population. They were no longer conquering other civilizations and adapting their technology, they were actually losing territory they could not longer maintain with their legions.

Military Spending



 

Maintaining an army to defend the border of the Empire from barbarian attacks was a constant drain on the government. Military spending left few resources for other vital activities, such as providing public housing and maintaining quality roads and aqueducts. Frustrated Romans lost their desire to defend the Empire. The empire had to begin hiring soldiers recruited from the unemployed city mobs or worse from foreign counties. Such an army was not only unreliable, but very expensive. The emperors were forced to raise taxes frequently which in turn led again to increased inflation.

THE FINAL BLOWS


St. Severinus and Odacer
 

For years, the well-disciplined Roman army held the barbarians of Germany back. Then in the third century A. D. the Roman soldiers were pulled back from the Rhine-Danube frontier to fight civil war in Italy. This left the Roman border open to attack. Gradually Germanic hunters and herders from the north began to overtake Roman lands in Greece and Gaul (later France). Then in 476 A. D. the Germanic general Odacer or Odovacar overthrew the last of the Roman Emperors, Augustulus Romulus. From then on the western part of the Empire was ruled by Germanic chieftain. Roads and bridges were left in disrepair and fields left untilled. Pirates and bandits made travel unsafe. Cities could not be maintained without goods from the farms, trade and business began to disappear. And Rome was no more in the West.
 

For additional information, please click the links below:

Best of Gibbon's DECLINE & FALL of the Roman Empire

The Collapse of the Roman Empire

Fall of Rome

 



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To: tomkow6
#20!!! Hey Tom, Do you feel the love, yet?

21 posted on 10/14/2003 2:38:26 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Poets' Rock the Boat!! WHOO HOO)
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To: LaDivaLoca

Today's classic warship, USS Wisconsin (BB-9)

Illinois class battleship
displacement. 11,564
length. 373'10"
beam. 72'2.5"
draft. 28'8.1"
speed. 16 k.
complement. 531
armament. 4 13", 14 6", 16 6-pdrs., 6 1-pdrs., 4 .30-cal. mg.

The USS Wisconsin (Battleship No. 9) was laid down on 9 February 1897 at San Francisco, Calif., by the Union Iron Works; launched on 26 November 1898; sponsored by Miss Elizabeth Stephenson, the daughter of Senator Isaac Stephenson of Marinette, Wis., and commissioned on 4 February 1901, Capt. George C. Reiter in command.

She mainly operated along the western coasts of North and Central America during the next two years, often serving as flagship of the Pacific Squadron. She also cruised to the South Pacific in late 1901 and to Chile early in 1902. Between June 1903 and September 1906 Wisconsin was stationed in the Far East as Asiatic Fleet flagship. She was out of commission at the Puget Sound Navy Yard from November 1906 until April 1908, and in July 1908 joined the "Great White Fleet" battleships that were then preparing for the trans-Pacific stage of their cruise around the World. Participating in the remainder of this epic voyage, Wisconsin visited New Zealand, Australia, the Philippines, Japan, China, Ceylon, then crossed the Indian Ocean, transited the Suez Canal, and passed through the Mediterranean and across the Atlantic before steaming into Hampton Roads, Virginia, in February 1909.

Over the next few months, Wisconsin underwent modernization work that greatly changed her appearance. Emerging from the shipyard with a new "basket" foremast, grey paint and many other alterations, she operated along the U.S. East Coast and in the Caribbean from mid-1909 to the spring of 1910, then went into reserve. Fitted with a second "basket" mast, she emerged briefly from reserve in 1912, and in 1915 joined the Naval Academy Training Squadron. In the middle of that year, the battleship passed through the Panama Canal on a Midshipmen's training cruise, thus returning to the Pacific for the first time in nearly seven years.

However, Wisconsin's remaining career was primarily spent in the Atlantic. Her Naval Academy tour ended when the United States entered World War I in April 1917. During that conflict she was employed to train the huge numbers of new Sailors needed to man the greatly enlarged wartime Navy. Wisconsin generally operated in the Chesapeake Bay for this purpose, but made occasional trips along the East Coast. With the War at an end, in early 1919 she participated in Atlantic Fleet exercises off Cuba and, in mid-year, carried Naval Academy midshipmen on a Caribbean cruise. Decommissioned in May 1920, a few weeks later Wisconsin was given the hull number BB-9, but had no further active service. She was sold for scrapping in January 1922.

22 posted on 10/14/2003 3:22:50 AM PDT by aomagrat (IYAOYAS)
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To: LaDivaLoca; LindaSOG; Radix; 2LT Radix jr; Severa; Bethbg79; southerngrit; Wild Thing; rwgal; ...

SALUTE!


 

 


23 posted on 10/14/2003 4:02:47 AM PDT by tomkow6 (.....beer or a b__h........beer or a b__h........beer or a b__h........beer or a b__h........beer or)
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To: LaDivaLoca; LindaSOG; Radix; 2LT Radix jr; Severa; Bethbg79; southerngrit; Wild Thing; rwgal; ...

Good morning, LaDiva! Good morning, Canteen Crew! Good morning, EVERYBODY!

GOOD

MORNING

TROOPS!!


24 posted on 10/14/2003 4:11:57 AM PDT by tomkow6 (.....beer or a b- -h........)
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To: LaDivaLoca; LindaSOG; Radix; 2LT Radix jr; Severa; Bethbg79; southerngrit; Wild Thing; rwgal; ...

Today's FEEBLE attempt at humor:

The Harvard School of Medicine did a study to determine why women love Chinese food so much.

The study revealed that this is due to the fact that Won Ton spelled backwards is: Not Now

25 posted on 10/14/2003 4:12:34 AM PDT by tomkow6 (.....beer or a b- -h........)
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To: LindaSOG; Radix; 2LT Radix jr; LaDivaLoca; Severa; Bethbg79; southerngrit; Wild Thing; rwgal; ...

 

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26 posted on 10/14/2003 4:13:35 AM PDT by tomkow6 (.....beer or a b- -h........)
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To: LaDivaLoca; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LindaSOG; bentfeather; Bethbg79; Iowa Granny; ...
Click on the pic and I'll guide you
to the start of today's thread




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27 posted on 10/14/2003 4:18:00 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: LaDivaLoca
Run the straight race through God's good Grace,
Lift up your eyes and seek His face; Life with it's way before us lies, Christ is the path and Christ is the prize.
28 posted on 10/14/2003 4:18:14 AM PDT by The Mayor (I asked God for a friend, He gave me all of YOU...)
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To: bentfeather


 Little Blonde FReeper !!

Two blondes were recently observed in a parking lot trying to unlock the door of their Mercedes with a coat hanger. Here is their dialogue:

Blonde One: I can't seem to get this door unlocked!

Blonde Two: Well, you'd better hurry up and try harder! it's starting to rain, and the top is down!

29 posted on 10/14/2003 4:20:24 AM PDT by tomkow6 (.....beer or a b- -h.....beer or a b- -h.....beer or a b- -h.....beer or a b- -h.....beer or a b- -h)
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To: kristinn; Angelwood; tgslTakoma; All
Click on the pic and I'll guide you
to the start of this important thread.



30 posted on 10/14/2003 4:22:26 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: ODC-GIRL; Old Sarge; txradioguy; kjfine; darkwing104; ICE-FLYER; Long Cut; 2LT Radix jr; M1911A1; ..

31 posted on 10/14/2003 4:24:28 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (mmmm DONUTS and COFFEE)
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From the men in the Military and the Canteen


32 posted on 10/14/2003 4:36:34 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Good Morning Ladies!)
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To: LaDivaLoca
Try this to keep them on the grill.

Do I tape each bean to the grill, or do I cover the open spaces on the grill with the tape, or what???

 

My "voices" want to know.....

 

33 posted on 10/14/2003 4:38:44 AM PDT by tomkow6 (.....beer or a b- -h.....beer or a b- -h.....beer or a b- -h.....beer or a b- -h.....beer or a b- -h)
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To: All
Please Thank someone in the military
for ensuring our Freedom.

Take a moment and Thank a Service Man or Woman.
Just Click on the graphic to
SEND a message to someone in the military.


34 posted on 10/14/2003 4:41:33 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: TEXOKIE; All
CLICK HERE for Troop Prayer Thread 8

Thank You TEXOKIE
35 posted on 10/14/2003 4:44:33 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (God Bless and Protect our military and our allies military.)
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Good morning, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. How's it going?
36 posted on 10/14/2003 4:53:09 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: All
To every service man or woman reading this thread.
Thank You for your service to our country.
No matter where you are stationed,
No matter what your job description
Know that we are are proud of each and everyone of you.


To our military readers, we remain steadfast in keeping the Canteen doors open.
The Canteen is Free Republics longest running daily thread specifically designed
to provide entertainment and morale support for the military.

The doors have been open since Oct 7 2001,
the day of the start of the war in Afghanistan.

We are indebted to you for your sacrifices for our Freedom.




FReepers:

If YOU are interested in participating in doing threads, either your own,
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If you are interested in helping on a Sports or Music thread
please FReep mail MoJo2001







37 posted on 10/14/2003 4:56:50 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (THANK YOU TROOPS, PAST and PRESENT)
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I have started a petition for Military Families and Veterans
Petitions Online ^ | 10/2/2003 | Armymarinemom
Posted on 10/02/2003 7:20 PM PDT by armymarinemom

"This petition will be up until May of 2004.
I would appreciate everyone spreading this link to all Military Families and Veterans Groups
who really support our country and Military."

CLICK HERE TO SIGN PETITION
38 posted on 10/14/2003 5:00:52 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (THANK YOU TROOPS, PAST and PRESENT)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; All

39 posted on 10/14/2003 5:02:40 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (THANK YOU TROOPS, PAST and PRESENT)
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To: LaDivaLoca
Thank You for today's thread!


40 posted on 10/14/2003 5:08:57 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (LaDivaLoca Rocks!)
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