The N.R.A. Is Naming Names

The New York Times ^ | 10-13-03 | BOB HERBERT

[lepton]

since it almost doubles

Almost?

[grumple]

I stopped reading here...

Civilians, however, should be required to demonstrate a good reason for having firearms.

Who determines what is "good reason"? Thanks for lumping honest law abiding citizens who use their own "good reason" and sound judgement as compared to thugs and criminals who could care less about anyone's definition of "good reason"

One thing is for sure though...the criminal who could care less about "good reason", has one thing in common with the sound judgement minded individual at least...he's more than likely a "civilian".

And what about the folks who so thoughtfully determine "good reason" for those of us who exercise "sound judgement when owning a firearm....are they any less of a criminal? And if so, how do they determine and/or demonstrate "good reason"?

[strela]

I'm shocked to note that the United States Democratic Party is not on that list.

[Squantos]

Bob Herbert and his fellow presstitutes just don't get it. Without the 2nd there is no 1st..........ect ect ect

Stay Safe !

[in the Arena]

I think soldiers, the police and certain other law enforcement officials should have guns. Civilians, however, should be required to demonstrate a good reason for having firearms.

Police are civilians...

[Tijeras_Slim]

They'd be perfectly happy to work for Pravda or Der Sturmer.

[Joe Brower]

"Bob Herbert and his fellow presstitutes just don't get it."

Well, at some point they will "get it", and by then it will be too late for them.

Fools. Worse, fools with a very large megaphone.

[Joe Brower]

"Police are civilians..."

Telling, isn't it? To dumbsh!ts like Bob Herbert, they are the same, when, as we here know better, despite similarities in equipement and tactics (somewhat unfortunately), the missions are extremely different.

This common misperception must make those "large and in charge", lean back, smile with satisfaction, and say to themselves, "Mission accomplished!".

[auggy]

I knew it. The AARP had to be there.

I refused to join them because, they were too liberal. I wrote them about it. Never received any reply.

[CAfraudPI]

He probably took the liberty of lumping the 'Nam statistics into that figure.

[auggy]

I'll bet 80% of the Hollywood stars own guns or their bodyguards carry guns.

[archy]

I think soldiers, the police and certain other law enforcement officials should have guns. Civilians, however, should be required to demonstrate a good reason for having firearms.

Thanks for nothing, Mr Herbert.

[MarkL]

The reason that the KC Chiefs and BC & BS of KC is on the list is the fact that they publicly opposed the CCW law in Mo.

I wrote a letter to Lamar Hunt telling him that I would never attend another Chiefs gate. I love football, and the Chiefs, but I'll never step foot in Arrowhead Stadium again, and it irks me that some of my taxes go to the Chiefs organization.

Mark

[archy]

Absolutely! I'm not for taking the right to vote away from women either.

Only those who haven't served in the military, per Heinlein.

-archy-/-

[Spok]

When liberals do this, it's called a boycott. When conservatives do it, it's an enemies list. This kind of doublethink spin reveals their lack of serious arguments.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

They forgot the US Attorney General John Ashcroft
and the members of 103d US Congress who "gave" us the unlawful Brady Bill.
Ashcroft has done nothing to challenge this law.

Text of the Second Amendment
"A well regulated Militia
being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Anyone who actually reads AND understands the 2nd Amendment will see that there is no need or authority for any type of gun registration and there is no need for anyone to have to apply for a license to carry a gun.
Any political party, politician, judge (etc), organization or individual who trys to convince you that:
1) you must register a firearm
2) you must pass a background check
3) you must wait (x) amount of days before you can get your firearm
4) you need to have a license to carry a gun
is either uneducated about OUR rights as citizens
OR is actively working to undermine OUR country.

How Did the Founders Understand the Second Amendment?

CONGRESS in 1866, 1941 and 1986 REAFFIRMS THE SECOND AMENDMENT
The Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment right to keep and bear firearms,
originated in the United States Congress in 1789 before being ratified by the States.
On three occasions since then--in 1866, 1941, and 1986--
Congress enacted statutes to reaffirm this guarantee of personal freedom
and to adopt specific safeguards to enforce it.

ON THE DAY BEFORE Thanksgiving 1993,
the 103d US Congress brought forth a constitutional turkey.
The 103d Congress decided that the Second Amendment did not mean what it said
("...shall not be infringed") and passed the Brady bill.
How the Brady Bill Passed (and subsequently - "Instant Check")
When the Brady Bill was passed into law on November 24, 1993,
the Senate voted on the Conference Report
and passed the Brady Bill by UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

[unixfox]

I'm not anti-gun. I think soldiers, the police and certain other law enforcement officials should have guns.

Good little serfs usually get what they deserve.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"I'll bet 80% of the Hollywood stars own guns or their bodyguards carry guns."

I'll bet that 100% of the 103d Congress who "gave" us the Brady Bill
own guns or their bodyguards carry guns.

[TERMINATTOR]

Burt Gummer (Michael Gross) is a gun grabber? Say it ain't so!

Molon Labe!

[Squantos]

Polidiots, teachers and media historically are the first to get "enlightened" in most countries civil wars. Too many tin horn dictators use the international media at that point to promote themselves to the world as the answer/cure to the ills of a nation they subvert.

Polidiots at the point hostilities start have zero purpose "officially" and are fair game for payback in such arenas . Teachers are shot or replaced and little minds are re-educated. With all that said history IMHO has proven to Polidiots, Presstitutes and teachers that if the a republic falls and anarchy prevails they are the first to go.

Pretty much ,sadly, they are the last to get it and the first to get it per se..........Their choice, our task is to prepare, prevent and repair if it comes to such a shit storm..

Such prevention includes monitoring those losers who kick the USA in the teeth daily from other countries like Candice Bergan (Charlie McCarthy's biggest dummy) who lives in France, hates the USA with a passion , yet is considered a celeb worth listening too.......Bizarre ? No ......NRA just monitoring Cultural Terrorism and it's supporters !

Stay Safe !