You know that I have never shied from interjecting - even when INappropriate. That being said, I will tell you and Ad A$tra and everyone else a tale of Kansas. In another life, I had a job where I talked to people all over the country, especially in large cities. One day, some guys in NY City were working on the NY Times crossword puzzle and they called our desk because they could not figure out the clue: state motto of Kansas. The other guy said fsf will know, asked me, and I immediately shot back, "To the stars through difficulty"! I am a font of useless, but interesting, knowledge. Yours in humility, fsf. :o)