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Democrats burned by polling blind spot
The Politico ^ | March 27, 2017 | Steven Shepard

Posted on 03/27/2017 11:11:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Trump20162020

Wow, I didn’t realize Gary Johnson received 4.27M votes. Thank God Trump pulled it out, even with that.


41 posted on 03/28/2017 5:00:30 AM PDT by petercooper (Why don't polls ever add up to 100%?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly. These voters aren’t “shy” - they are intentionally withholding information from the enemy.


42 posted on 03/28/2017 5:05:19 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: RipSawyer

Spot on.


43 posted on 03/28/2017 5:12:49 AM PDT by taxcontrol (,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Democratic allies create the shy Republican voter by the way they try to knock the candidate down. The Democratic allies in the press create a flak cloud of negative non-stories like “Trump Refuses to Release Tax Forms.” The news presenter looks deadly serious as he stares directly into the camera and repeats this non-news like he is announcing one hundred grand mothers were just murdered. But the voter has a brain and can compare what the news-reader says with what he already knows about the security violations of the opponent, how the opponent got paid huge speaking fees and then supported legislation favoring those same payers and, somehow, that is not news. So the “facts” in the flak cloud look even more trivial. But rather than argue with that serious-seeming portrayal which surely lots of people seem fooled by, they avoid talking to others or they lie about who they’ll vote for.


44 posted on 03/28/2017 5:16:59 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (n)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

These days we should refer to that group as “unindoctrinated” instead of “uneducated”.


45 posted on 03/28/2017 5:21:30 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have no idea how many pollsters tried to contact me before the election. If I get a call from a number I don’t recognize I don’t answer it. Simple as that.


46 posted on 03/28/2017 5:21:47 AM PDT by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: Luke21

I:
- graduated HS in 1982
- then joined the Army for 6+ years (learned a lot of non-college skills and discipline)
- pursued technical training in IT by studying many long hours after work.
- have been making over $100K a year since 1996
- got my associates degree in 2012.
- should finish my BS in 2018 at age 54
- expect to enroll in my masters that same year and finish by 2020.

My chosen path indicates that I will be making C level salary two years after that at age 58. Not bad for the son of a backwoods Florida welder who did not finish HS.

Education (or skills) is only one of three legs of success. The other two are:
- drive or ambition (goals)
- dedication or discipline (effort)

The libs only look at skills and that is why they do not understand the differences in success.


47 posted on 03/28/2017 5:24:01 AM PDT by taxcontrol (,)
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To: Luke21

I have two masters and I’m completing my dissertation. And I wouldn’t say the Trump voters I’ve met were “shy.”

The dems are so lost they’ll wander in the desert for forty years. I hope.


48 posted on 03/28/2017 5:32:20 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (Waiting for inspirations)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t expect there is much overlap between the non college educated American worker, who wants government out of their way, and the democrat core voter in big cities who is a high school dropout and very dependent on government services. My gut is that when you poll the ones who need government, they are loud and want more. When you try to poll folks who just try to live peacefully, they tell the caller to f*ck off.


49 posted on 03/28/2017 5:37:39 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dont know how common its become but I do know that my friends and I, Trumpublicans all, in rural Wisconsin made a point of talking to pollsters. We made a point of pretending to be Democrats and in any policy related question gave the worst possible advice.

There was enough public discussion of how crooked pollsters were and how to intentionally foil them over the last couple of elections that Im not sure that this type of monkeywrenching can be ignored as not having played a part.

50 posted on 03/28/2017 5:52:04 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Did you catch the part about the Democrats controlling the pollsters?”

Which explains it all. WikiLeaks exposed that the DNC/Hillary Campaign instructed media and pollsters on which geographic areas to poll to fill demographic quotas with Dems, and even the times of day to make their calls, to game the results their way. Polling results were false because the pollsters followed Hillary’s specifications. Being a megalomaniac, Clinton 1) believed the lies she generated; and, 2) can never admit being at fault. This article is the sound of her co-dependent sycophants pretending to believe that pollsters screwed up on their own. The pollsters will thank Dear Leader for showing them their errors.


51 posted on 03/28/2017 6:43:23 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember that the polling genius Nate Silver gave Trump a 2% chance of winning the Republican primary. We also had our contingent of establishment squishes here on FR telling us that the polls were accurate before and would be accurate again in 2016.


52 posted on 03/28/2017 8:44:36 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: Gene Eric

Trump won because African-American voters in PA, OH, MI and WI did not come out to vote for Hillary.


53 posted on 03/28/2017 9:11:08 AM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bmp


54 posted on 03/29/2017 2:32:32 AM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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To: cowboyusa

That’s a great way to put it, and I give credit where credit it due: They didn’t trust her, and they were right.

For the enemedia to feign surprise is absurd, though; she initially had to distance herself from Otoken (because he was a failed president with a horrible economy), then had to enlist him in the end. When Hillary was campaigning in the Deep Ghetto (Philly) right before Election Day, while Trump had been venturing out into “safe” Dem states, it was clear that both campaigns understood what was happening. The media couldn’t have missed it; they just deliberately failed to report it.


55 posted on 03/30/2017 4:01:19 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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