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To: Mollypitcher1

Sorry, you are incorrect. The Constitution does not reference or quote or site ANY person. You INFER that Vattel is present in Article 1 Section 8.

As for naturalization being the same as natural born, I never said it was. In fact, I specifically referenced the section of US code that defines naturalization as occurring after birth.

Title 8 Section 1401 subsection A says that anyone born on US soil (derived from the 14th amendment) is a US citizen at birth. I submit that by your logic, NO ONE COULD EVER BE NATURAL BORN. Since that is not the case, your logic is de facto, seriously flawed.

But we have been over this before. I quote to you specific laws and the history of our current code and you supply some vague inferences about what our founders might have thought. We have been around this mulberry bush before.

You have your opinion, I have mine.


74 posted on 07/22/2016 8:29:27 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

The Constitution does not reference or quote or site ANY person. You INFER that Vattel is present in Article 1 Section 8.
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Well well well, you are at it again!

I ASSUMED you could UNDERSTAND that since E. Vattel, THE Internationally Recognized AUTHORITY on International Law at the time, was the AUTHOR of the Law of Nations, you were capable of understanding that citing Vattel was the same as citing the Law of Nations.

Since you obviously do not make the connection, I shall cite for you from the Constitution the EXACT REFERENCE to The LAW OF NATIONS from Article 1, Section 8.

“To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offensies against the Law of Nations;”

Your insistence that the “Constitution does not reference or quote or cite ANY person” is unfounded.

I AM NATURAL BORN as I was born of two citizen parents and born on American soil. So you contention that “NO ONE COULD EVER BE NATURAL BORN “ is utterly ridiculous.

IF and WHEN you have slithered out of your pretentiousness and educated yourself, you may discuss this matter. Until then, please cease and desist from spreading FALSEHOODS!


104 posted on 07/22/2016 12:15:14 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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