[rbg81]

Ryan is a real POS. Say what you will about the other side, but they know how to close ranks and stick together. Unfortunately, the GOP has too many people like Ryan who are just out for themselves.

I think the original plan was for the GOP to annoint him as a savior at a brokered convention. However, Trump’s margin of victory makes that infeasible. So, instead, he wants to “Goldwater” Trump’s campaign. That is, ensure Trump loses so badly that the Party will have no one else to go to in 2020.

However, methinks that Ryan is just succeeding in making himself toxic. I will not vote for him under any circumstances.

[gunsequalfreedom]

However, methinks that Ryan is just succeeding in making himself toxic. I will not vote for him under any circumstances.

Be sure you convince a bunch of other voters also. Let me know where I can send a campaign contribution.

[Defiant]

If these RATs did succeed in sabotaging Trump's campaign, and they nominate Ryan or one of the other saboteurs, we absolutely should refuse to support them. Hopefully, Trump will start a new party if that happens. Even if he doesn't, I can hear it now--do you want Ryan or to reelect Hillary? Here's my response:

Do you want Petain, or to just vote for Hitler directly.

Another analogy is to the Iranian election system. The mullahs decide who can run, and then the voters get to "decide" which one should be president. Sometimes they select the "moderate" and sometimes they select the fundamentalist. But the people keep the illusion of having a choice. In America, the Uniparty and the Media are the "mullahs" and we are the dummies told to choose. We need to refuse to play that game.