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Thank you. Perhaps my first reasoned response to one of my pro-Cruz posts.

I do see where you are coming from and that you support Trump. And although I don’t agree with all your arguments you supported him well in your post.

As to your critique of Cruz it would take a bit of doing to give you a point by point response. In general, however, most fall into the TPP/TPA category: Cruz says something positive about it, but in the end decides to vote no. All the focus is on the talk. But the vote is what counted.

The New York Values is an example. Bad strategy probably but the Trump response is fake. They know what he meant and probably agree with him.

Or the wifey working for Goldman Sachs. Totally blown out of proportion.

And Cruz ‘stealing’ delegates from the unprepared and poorly organized Trump campaign. That’s just nonsense.

I could go on. So could you. I hope some other Trump supporters will follow your lead. We need a little more civility around here.

So again, your post was greatly appreciated.

And no, you never said you would walk if Trump loses the nomination. Many have. Not you. Sorry about that.

Thanks for response - I can't totally disagree with anything you said. I think what seals it for probably an overwhelming majoiry of Trump supporters ... since none of the information we get about candidates is 100% proof they can be trusted, or 100% proof they can't - although i can't speak for all of them ... but this goes for conservatives in my life outside of Free Republic ... is a certain percent of people very simply (then mixed with that other stuff) ... have this instinctive reaction to him that he can't be trusted. In itself - that's not a criticism, nor even an argument. But you meet people in your life that, prior to you even thinking about it or intellectualizing it .... you ... just ... don't ... trust. And I don't even know if Cruz is consciously untrustworthy.

What's odd about this primary - is it's similar with many people who don't like Trump. It's like (and I'm calling this legitimate because as human beings, we like to think of ourselves as totally intellectual - but we're not - and that's a good thing because we'd be dead quickly)j ... it's like he strikes people stronlgly enough right off the bat that there is an instant 'no' followed by plausible reasons to say one is against him for this or that reason.

I've tried to ask myself if I do that with Cruz. in other words, I trust my instincts on people very much, but part of trusting those instincts is knowing they are ultimately fallible. So ... is my position against Cruz just a reaction? But I don'tt think so, because until a few months ago I along with probably 3 or 4 others was always posting "Hey, they are both good, but Cruz is not ready for prime time as a politician even though he's perfect on paper ... he could learn from Trump for 8 years how to persuade, move the country rather than just stand for things ... and that would be a very very powerful 16 years - Trump followed by Cruz. So despite my reactions to Cruz ... I was willing to chalk it up to 'he's just got a quirk where he comes off as inauthentic, overly practiced as if for a debate, and so maybe he was just a super nerd who found his calling in debate, which is theatre, so he overdoes the theatre'

But then I began posting that I thought there was something ... very slightly ... wrong with him ... like that he didn't have a choice, that the inauthenticity wasn't necessarily dishonesty or a mask, but that ... there might be a very light aspergers-y spectrum thing going on, and the problem with that kind of thing is that they don't really share the same nature of human experience as everyone else - they are slightly disconnected. I know it well because my father, who was super smart, went to Harvard blah blah blah, had it too. Nothing you could ever diagnose, but entirely in his head and disconnected in a very slight way .. just something off, that you'd only know or recognize through observation over many years.

My point in saying that isn't to disparage Cruz ... I say it more as a way for his supporters to understand the experience others have of him - it's an experience - not just a 'feeling' like a liberal has - not something shallow - many people - and I might say a huge (not yuge) majority of us ... have a certain reaction to Cruz where everything he says is perfect if you wrote it down or memorized it (like a practiced debater would do, having observed how he 'came off' to different audiences having been judged for it over and over ... ultimately I don't know what the word is ... Insincere? Inauthentic? Masking Something? It's almost 'creepy' and I get that I'm exposing myself to all kinds of .. name calling ... for using that word.

Anyway - enough on that - just that I'm willing to bet, though I can speak for no one but myself - that those of us who are very anti-Cruz and not just pro-Trump, combine the type of things I listed - which as you say aren't definitive proof of anything necessarily - we add that with what our bodies and instincts and raw experience of watching him ... and we say .something very very wrong here - even if it's just a 1 in 3 chance there is something very very wrong ... we're not convicting him of a crime - merely saying 'no, not that one, that's a serious risk'

Lastly, I say all that while noting that in many ways Trump is a mess - but ... his messiness is the type that comes with a serious do-er rather than perfect thinker.

Good yak - thanks for it - happy travels ... and as they say 'I wish your candidate well, but not success' :-) Pardon edit problems above, it's my bedtime and won't be re-reading which normally I do at least once ...