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To: tinyowl
So I think we know what kind of deals Ted is making. it's not for your good and it's not for mine.

Why do you guys make statements like this? You have absolutely nothing that you can say to back it up. Do you actually expect anyone but a Trump supporter to nod their head when reading this sort of nonsense.

Really Trump Supporters, you have a viable candidate. He could win. Why not do some legwork and explain why he should win instead of spewing out Cruz hatred and "I'm sitting this one out if Trump loses" Hillary supporting nonsense.

This is a serious article. Step by step explaining how your guy is going to lose. And nothing but flames coming from the Trump supporters. Why not pick the piece apart. Prove it wrong. Do something except yell. It is getting very tiresome. I'm starting to just skip over your one-liners.

110 posted on 04/10/2016 5:49:56 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint
"Why not pick the piece apart. Prove it wrong. Do something except yell."

....pssst.....(whispering)..... need more evidence of fraud and deception by CRUZ supporters.....HERE:

"DISGUSTING! Colorado Trump Delegates Scratched From Ballots at GOP Convention – Cruzers Listed TWICE"

... and you sit there and wonder why you Cruz supporters are getting flamed.

124 posted on 04/10/2016 5:57:04 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: InterceptPoint
Sorry but I'm not one of these.

"I'm sitting this one out if Trump loses" Hillary supporting nonsense."

That's not in my post - anywhere.

I think your candidate is viable too and only with massive support from the very cartel he claims he wants to eradicate, and that's a problem for me. I'm not allowed into the rooms where the deals are being made, none of us are, so I can't provide the proof you're looking for.

We all have to read the tea leaves.

But let me ask you this -> Your candidate is deeply in cooperation with precisely the establishment he has claimed is 'The Cartel' -> he's joined it. He's working with Bushes, he co-authored an op-ed in the WSJ supporting TPA, his campaign has been legitimately accused of dirty tricks, his senatorial bid was financed by the belly of the CronyCapitalist beast (and he lied about it,) his wife wrote the book on globalizing the US, essentially dissolving it into a continental entity reminiscent of the book 1984. His debate team couldn't stand him, few people who work with him can stand him. Early videos of him wanting T&A and power. You can say whatever you want about that being kid stuff -> I never would said that, never, ever ever, never.

I can't give you hard evidence, but hard evidence isn't required because he's not on trial - he's trying to convince me to support his candidacy. I've seen enough that my 'that guy is only on HIS OWN side' meter has pinned - and to be honest, it pinned the first time I saw him speak. I wanted to believe differently, and I'd love to be wrong, I'm quiet sure I'm not.

So, what is your answer to list above? Is that not enough to make you wonder, deeply, if there is anything behind Cruz other than a semi-high-IQ trained in the art of debate - trained in the art of taking any side, whether he believes it or not? Why do you trust him? That's what needs something super close to proof, not the criticisms.

Do you doubt Trump is competent enough, loves America enough?

Do you REALLY, in the depths of your heart, fully think Cruz loves America - or does he not really care, but he does really love to debate, and he does really relish power?

Why not give him 8 more years on the political stage, not as president, to mature and also to prove himself to be what he says - so many people have the same reaction as I do - could you be missing something they are not? But if in fact he's honest -> To learn how to persuade people? What makes you think he'll be effective when no one wants to work with him? (Unless of course he sells out to the Cartel - in which case he will appear to be a very good negotiator ... everything will have already been negotiated ... and none of it will be good for us - it will be a power sharing deal between him and the Cartel)

So that's where I come from -> in part my sense is that everyone has already dug their heals in, and that's fine. My support for Trump is rational and I've examined myself and my motives as deeply as I can. I also have some first hand knowledge of the type of guy he is having known someone for a time who lived in his building, was on the Board of Trustees of Trump tower, went to college a year early and finished 2 years early, and was a zealous Ayn Rand lover, something I also am. This one also had the highest moral content of virutally anyone I've ever met (you'd have to, to love Ayn Rand that much -> in terms of integrity and what that means)

Trump's pretty much a known quantity to me - as much as he can be.

Cruz - not much track record, and a hell of a lot of red flags. Trump has been on trial his whole life - been acquitted, albeit with scars - I have some of my own and they don't detract from my integrity. Cruz ... ? ... ? I'll give him this -> he debates well. Not sure that's a plus. He's also the Cartel's last chance, and appears to be changing his stance of getting rid of them to dealing with them. 4 legs good, two legs bad two legs better.

153 posted on 04/10/2016 6:18:29 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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