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To: gubamyster; 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t understand why you are so giddy that millions of voters potentially will have their votes negated & thrown to a candidate they did not vote for or support? I know you hate Trump, but doesn’t it bother you that the political system is rigged like this? Really, it goes against what this country was founded on. Whether it is your candidate or not, you should be bothered.

Good points. If the establishment had their man like in the past, Romney or McCain, this nomination would be over. Cruz needs like 88% of the remaining delegates to win this outright. After New York it will be virtually impossible to get the nomination outright. In 2012 late in the Republican race, Santorum faced needing 75% of the remaining delegates and he withdrew.

It speaks volumes that if the GOP establishment had their nominee, this would be over, now they are going to try to take it by hook or by crook because they don't.

It's amazing these Freepers don't realize they are ultimately helping the corrupt GOPe establishment or they don't care because the ends justify the means. I hope they realize, that's how commies or statists get things done.

CGato

25 posted on 04/09/2016 8:54:29 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: Conservative Gato

> “It’s amazing these Freepers don’t realize they are ultimately helping the corrupt GOPe establishment or they don’t care because the ends justify the means.”

They know that Cruz is backed by the corrupt GOP establishment. It’s been told so many times on threads here. They are ignoring it.

They have been convinced that Donald Trump is a liberal and that Ted Cruz is a true conservative, even though the telltale sign of where the money comes from is known by them. They have bought the line and invested all their emotion, they can’t look at the telltale evidence.

They are like all losers who have invested so much in a losing stock, they keep coming up with excuses for the management, and are always blaming it on something else. They can’t sell and cut their losses because they already lost too much. If they were to sell, they wouldn’t have anything left to get into something new.

So the ends justify the means.

Any American who believes in Honor and Ethics will be called morons, low-information, kool-aid drinkers for Trump. They keep repeating their mantra that Cruz is playing by the rules, Trump is inexperienced; they will overlook that Trump won the votes, they will overlook that millions could be disenfranchised because most of those aren’t worth anything to them, they will overlook if Trump delegates and supporters are misled, lied to, duped and fooled, because to them any Trump supporter is a fool to begin with.

And yet they don’t see that they are killing themselves in the long term for foolish college-level pranks in the short term. They don’t see it. Ask them what they expect to achieve by what they do, and they won’t have much to say except that Cruz is a conservative or such. They don’t know what will happen in the future, what course will be taken and how they will treat the millions upon millions of voters that they have written off.

And they think they can win this way.

It’s pretty damn scary.

For me, I think Donald easily surpasses the 1237 threshold, but the Cruz delegates along with the Party of Romney will rewrite the convention rules so that 1st ballot delegates are unbound and they can vote for who they will. So there will be a 1st ballot which will not be decisive according to rules, and then there will be a 2nd ballot where the establishment inserts their preselected pick.

What will be interesting will be the media narrative by which the GOP establishment explains why they are justified in doing what they are doing. I am sure their script writers are already at work on that fiction. We already have a clue: Rules, Rules, Rules, there are rules and everyone must follow the rules. Sure, there was a popular candidate that didn’t make it but look how Lincoln got in or something (SQUIRREL!). Anyways, the Party of Romney, er ....the Party of (Insert name) is the nominee according to the rules adopted by the majority of the delegates all of whom were elected by the voters. Case closed.


147 posted on 04/09/2016 10:40:09 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Conservative Gato
If the establishment had their man like in the past, Romney or McCain, this nomination would be over.

It's exactly the opposite. The delegate selection rules we have today were put into place to avoid a longer primary process - to avoid what happened with Romney.

Trump benefits from the rules change from Romney. He would be worse off with the previous primary process.

158 posted on 04/09/2016 11:13:02 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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