Posted on 04/09/2016 8:30:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
That’s interesting. Everything I’ve seen on this forum is that democrats were crossing over to vote for Mr. Trump. That’s a new one on me.
Since the Democrats own most Wisconsin I find it amazing the Scott Walker won three contests there against democrats. But, whatever...
As I have said in another post what games are the GOPe playing? What rules are being broken?
And with regard to the GOPe Mr. Trump has now hired Paul Manafort. Mr. Manafort has worked for George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, John McCain, and Bob Dole. That’s establishment.
My concern is that we, the collective we, are only screwing ourselves by being blind to the positives of both candidates. Either one is good with me...and both CAN win the general...if we support them. Neither can win if we don’t.
No idea—you are the one who used the term “serious money,” but all last year you stated you had serious money on Cruz...all last year any time anyone said anything you did not like about Cruz....in your comments and in your tag line.
It was memorable because no one else ever used the term...
Caveat Taglinius. (Note the tagline)
“This genius, the man touted to be able to reform the vast bureaucracy of the federal government and especially the Veterans Administration, cannot manage even his own campaign. Donald Trump is exposing himself for the fraud he is.”
And you support a slimy, underhanded, sneakily deceptive, lying scumbag lawyer, Teddy Cruz. And by your support, you indicate your own moral turpitude, as you join the circle of GOPe RINOs willing to support delegates selecting your President rather than the people who voted throughout the Primary season for their candidate of choice. Shame on you.
Absolutely agree. But the rules now are the same. Must win eight states delegates by a majority. Must win 1237 to win the nomination. Those won’t change unless the delegates to the convention change them. If the majority of the delegates are for Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz why would they change them?
I just don’t see the subversion you are speaking of. As long as one of the two is the nominee which is what the current rules require I’m all in on whoever the nominee is.
> “It’s amazing these Freepers don’t realize they are ultimately helping the corrupt GOPe establishment or they don’t care because the ends justify the means.”
They know that Cruz is backed by the corrupt GOP establishment. It’s been told so many times on threads here. They are ignoring it.
They have been convinced that Donald Trump is a liberal and that Ted Cruz is a true conservative, even though the telltale sign of where the money comes from is known by them. They have bought the line and invested all their emotion, they can’t look at the telltale evidence.
They are like all losers who have invested so much in a losing stock, they keep coming up with excuses for the management, and are always blaming it on something else. They can’t sell and cut their losses because they already lost too much. If they were to sell, they wouldn’t have anything left to get into something new.
So the ends justify the means.
Any American who believes in Honor and Ethics will be called morons, low-information, kool-aid drinkers for Trump. They keep repeating their mantra that Cruz is playing by the rules, Trump is inexperienced; they will overlook that Trump won the votes, they will overlook that millions could be disenfranchised because most of those aren’t worth anything to them, they will overlook if Trump delegates and supporters are misled, lied to, duped and fooled, because to them any Trump supporter is a fool to begin with.
And yet they don’t see that they are killing themselves in the long term for foolish college-level pranks in the short term. They don’t see it. Ask them what they expect to achieve by what they do, and they won’t have much to say except that Cruz is a conservative or such. They don’t know what will happen in the future, what course will be taken and how they will treat the millions upon millions of voters that they have written off.
And they think they can win this way.
It’s pretty damn scary.
For me, I think Donald easily surpasses the 1237 threshold, but the Cruz delegates along with the Party of Romney will rewrite the convention rules so that 1st ballot delegates are unbound and they can vote for who they will. So there will be a 1st ballot which will not be decisive according to rules, and then there will be a 2nd ballot where the establishment inserts their preselected pick.
What will be interesting will be the media narrative by which the GOP establishment explains why they are justified in doing what they are doing. I am sure their script writers are already at work on that fiction. We already have a clue: Rules, Rules, Rules, there are rules and everyone must follow the rules. Sure, there was a popular candidate that didn’t make it but look how Lincoln got in or something (SQUIRREL!). Anyways, the Party of Romney, er ....the Party of (Insert name) is the nominee according to the rules adopted by the majority of the delegates all of whom were elected by the voters. Case closed.
Best post of the week.
That is a talking point direct from the crux campaign. Congratulations for your regurgitation.
I don’t understand this process. South Carolina had their primary a while ago, why are delegates being selected/elected/whatever now?
I need some mansplain’in here!
Delegates are normally picked at party conventions weeks after a primary.
There is a sworn affidavit that we can’t see from a witness that we can’t name that says this conversation happened. It’s on the internet so it must be true.
Don't "whatever" me, n00b.
You haven't even been here a year yet.
Since you're so "informed" about Scott Walker and his elections. why don't you explain something to us all?:
Scott Walker won his recall election in June 2012. Four months later, 0bama won Wisconsin in the general election walking away.
Shouldn't the "influence" of the Mighty Scott Walker have carried the state for Romney? LOL! :)
I was asked where it came from, not the name of the witness.
Ted is not an NBC. He is not going to be the nominee.
One may be free to believe what is documented at that link or not.
Alligators will feed themselves... or starve trying.
Bon Apetit!
Yeah that’s a real Freeper’s attitude. I’ll post what ever crap I find who cares if it’s true. That’s the spirit of FreeRepublic and how we keep our reputation. Yeah, that’s lovely.
Crickets.
It's exactly the opposite. The delegate selection rules we have today were put into place to avoid a longer primary process - to avoid what happened with Romney.
Trump benefits from the rules change from Romney. He would be worse off with the previous primary process.
Thanks for pulling the n00b card.
Interesting thoughts. Mitt Romney was a disaster. An absolute train wreck of a Presidential candidate. That is why he was absolutely destroyed in Wisconsin as well as most other states. No one’s influence could have changed that outcome.
There was no response the other substantive comments this n00b made. Wonder why.
So you're OK with millions of voters not having their votes count, as long as your guy wins? You're OK, with a rigged system, as long as it it rigged for your guy?
That's really is disappointing.
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