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To: Sacajaweau; AuntB; Jacquerie; Publius; Repeal The 17th; GraceG
My initial reservations have been quelled by more research. We have a runaway federal bureaucracy, a soft tyranny and a uni-party congress. We have a Marxist president who is fundamentally transforming our Sacred Republic at breakneck speed. What are our options?

As eloquently stated by GraceG, they are:

1. Elect More Republicans - Failed due to RINO/Uni-party confluence.

2. Article V Convention of States to propose Amendments - Needed to try to take power from the federal government back to the states and reel in the federal leviathan.

3. State Nullification - Last ditch effort to try to take power back from the federal monster, though by this point it may be too late.

4. State Secession - Could either end up peaceably like the breakup of the Czechoslovakia in 1993 or a brutal:

5. Civil War II like the first one.... The longer we wait on #2, the more likely #3, then #4 and finally #5. .

So, do we do nothing and just wait for # 5?

The following links affected my thinking on the Article V process and I am now a champion for pursuing a Convention of States. Please review them and tell me what you think.

My main 'checks and balances' re the Article V process are First, it takes 34 states to even call a convention. Second, it takes 38 states to ratify any proposed amendments from an amendments convention. Third, there are very strict parameters and associated penalties for violations by state convention delegates. See the following link re Indiana Duties of State Delegates to a Convention of States.

Also, calling it a Con-Con is a misnomer. No one wants a Constitutional Convention. The Convention of States is only to propose amendments to the constitution. Period. Anything that veers from that will be a treasonous act.

The links that turned it around for me:

Responses To Convention Of States Opposition A number of good articles that address Con-Con and 'runaway' concerns.

Can We Trust the Constitution? Answering the "Runaway Convention" Myth

Indiana Duties of a Delegate to a Convention of States A model for other states.

An Article V Convention Can Be Limited Addresses the "runaway convention" concerns.

A Single-Subject Convention Another article that addresses the "runaway convention" fear.

And finally, an article by Sarah Palin: Sarah Palin: Debunking the myths of a Convention of States From the article:

"There are four reasons why a Convention is safe."

"Number 1 - The applications that the State legislatures are passing right now, define the topics to be addressed at the Convention. Anything beyond that scope is 'out of order'."

"Number 2 - State legislators send Convention Commissioners who are subject to instructions given by their State."

"Number 3 - Lets just say for the sake of argument that reasons number one and number two failed. If they did, the Courts could declare their actions void."

"Number 4 - Whatever amendments the Convention proposes will not take effect until three-fourths of the States ratify them."

"That's 38 States. By definition, if 38 States agree on an amendment it's not runaway. It's a mandate!"

"Here's the bottom line."

"We already have a runaway Congress and a runaway President."

"The founders gave us Article V of the Constitution to stop them."

"It's time to use it!"

100 posted on 01/12/2016 10:00:47 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Every-time our US senators and US Representatives vote on an amendment someone with yellow stained in the crotch pants thinks it is a CON-CON.


103 posted on 01/12/2016 10:28:19 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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