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To: Reno89519; 2ndDivisionVet; All; Jim Robinson

And I am not a lawyer, but I suspect despite your failure to disclose, if FR knows, which they obviously do now, puts Jim Robinson and FR at risk of entanglement with FEC and FTC. Anyone affiliated in any way with a candidate, campaign, party, or PAC, etc., really should disclose that!

And if you say no, despite the risk and dishonesty of not disclosing, think about the criticism of Obama in 2008 especially wherein people were paid to troll the internet, yet didn’t share that. Just because they did it, does that make it right to do so? What credibility do you or any of us have if we say one set of rules apply to them but not to us?
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Oh no, Reno89519, now you are really frightening me as I am one of the “non-disclosing” Cruz small donors. What can I do now to make things with you and the other members of the anti-Cruz jihadists? Should I stop posting at FR? Should I send money to a candidate of YOUR (and your fellow members of the anti-Cruz posse) choice to compensate and disclose that.

Please Reno89519, help me save myself.


126 posted on 01/01/2016 7:29:20 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruzin' and Trumpin' or losin'!)
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To: House Atreides; All
House Atreides, While I realize you are being a bit sarcastic, I'll bite. I seriously don't see you have any need to be concerned about your individual donations. As best as I know (and again, I am not a lawyer and I have not stated at a Holiday Inn Express recently), there is no FEC or FTC requirements regarding GIVING donations. But, if you are affiliated with a campaign, organization, etc., then you have an obligation to disclose that and clarify whether your statement or activity is approved or endorsed. This is really common sense. If you work for an candidate, just as in a commercial setting, if you work for company X, then go out and recommend its products or criticize others, you should disclose your affiliation, whether paid or unpaid.

And my only concern here, as with elsewhere that I read or comment, is when someone is trolling a group, posting in support of a candidate, organization, company, product, or service without disclosing their affiliation. I respect honesty and would like to trust someone is commenting for themselves, 'from the heart' if you will, than being the propagandist for a candidate, organization, etc. Isn't this important to you as well?

Maybe there is an attorney here on FR that might like to shed some light on all this?

131 posted on 01/01/2016 7:45:03 PM PST by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: House Atreides; Reno89519; 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson

You are misunderstanding Reno’s argument. He is not saying each of us on FR should be careful about disclosing our small donations to a campaign.

Instead, he is saying that bundlers such as 2DV may get FR in trouble. 2DV has been honest with us for months that he is bundling for Cruz. And he has included donation requests for Cruz in his tagline.

Jim Robinson has already served notice in a subsequent post that no one on FR should use FR to solicit money on behalf of any campaign.

And 2DV in the very next post said he will comply, and he removed the donation link from his tag line.


132 posted on 01/01/2016 7:45:13 PM PST by Vision Thing
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