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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The sad fact is that Trump is no real conservative, is a very flawed character and has an exegerrated and checkered business past. The tragedy is that he and he alone has catured the imagination of voters and given voice to their frustrations and legitimate fears. No other Republican candidate protested clearly the open borders, non enforcement of immigration laws and the unwanted erosion of the American fabric. Americans are angry and frustrated. Unfortunately they view the nuanced approaches of the others as just more ineffective political correctness. The real tragedy is that the country after the disastrous Presidency of Obama desperately needs and wants a solid,credible alternative. If the Republican Party somehow fails to nominate an electable candidate ,the corrupt, alcoholic, closeted lesbian Clinton will succeed to abominable like minded Obama. The Republican Party has to have someone better than Trump to emerge as a consensus candidate.


19 posted on 12/09/2015 10:08:26 PM PST by allendale
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To: allendale
The sad fact is that Trump is no real conservative

Speak for yourself, you are not qualified to make that determination or define conservative for me or anyone else. Stop pretending like you are.
25 posted on 12/09/2015 10:13:22 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: allendale

Trump is VERY e4lectable; far more so than anyone else running in the GOP primaries.


26 posted on 12/09/2015 10:13:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: allendale
Unfortunately they view the nuanced approaches of the others (not Trump) as just more ineffective political correctness.

You want nuanced?

Whatever happened to "bold colors, not pale pastels"?

43 posted on 12/09/2015 11:32:41 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: allendale
BUMP to the whole post. Especially:

The sad fact is that Trump is no real conservative, is a very flawed character and has an exegerrated and checkered business past. The tragedy is that he and he alone has catured the imagination of voters and given voice to their frustrations and legitimate fears.

47 posted on 12/10/2015 1:11:59 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: allendale
The Republican Party has to have someone better than Trump to emerge as a consensus candidate.

What conservatives must realize is that the attitudes of the people of this nation are so widely spread now, there cannot possibly be a consensus candidate. There cannot be any consensus that will last more than a few days, such as after 9/11, when the voices of blaming the victims started immediately and gathered force within days.

We are in a civil war being fought in the media and cyberspace with words and falsehoods, in the government by massive regulation and penalties, in schools and universities with indoctrination, in the courts with unconstitutional doctrines being illegally enacted, in the Congress by dereliction of duty and ignorance of responsibility, and in all public spaces with fascist Political Correctness. We are so far gone that nothing -- repeat, nothing and no-one -- will unite us as Americans at this point in history.

The best we can hope for is someone with the strength of character and purpose to manage a house divided against itself until the next cataclysmic event that will frighten everyone into making the choice which side they're on; frightened enough for the end stage of civil war when brother does not hesitate to kill brother.

It will take a war on our homeland from without or within, or a famine or a plague, and that will only bring a brief respite, because multiculturalism itself, the enshrinement of atheism into law since the 1940s and the anti-American hordes imported and grown here are already naturally opposed to the Constitution, written for a consensus not of opinion, but of morality based on the Western canon that has been utterly denounced and deracinated by generations of the elites. Sady, many today don't even believe that any moral absolutes exist.

It is only a matter of time until we do have to have martial law for a period of time to restore some semblance of order. I'd rather have Trump leading our side than be ground under the heel of any of the figureheads on the left.

60 posted on 12/10/2015 6:33:19 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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