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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, I like Cruz and can’t stand Linda, but if it were my daughter or wife...

I know that might not be popular here, but forced conception is very wrong, IMHO.


2 posted on 12/04/2015 4:24:03 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Yep, because it was the babies fault it must die ... oh, wait.


9 posted on 12/04/2015 4:26:39 PM PST by doc1019 (Out of my mind ... back in 5)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I know that might not be popular here, but forced conception is very wrong, IMHO.

Is forced conception worse than abortion?

A life is a life is a life.

10 posted on 12/04/2015 4:27:27 PM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

This is one of those issues that is more complicated that one imagines.

It presents several indisputable arguments on both sides.

First is, does the baby deserve to die because of the terms of conception? How is it guilty of anything, but life.

Second is, should a woman be forced (against her will) to carry a child who is a daily reminder of a rape?

I don’t have the wisdom to offer anything resembling a coherent answer on how to reconcile these.


17 posted on 12/04/2015 4:37:19 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

A friend’s daughter was conceived in rape. She’s a beautiful 16 year old girl now. Thankfully her mother was exactly that.


18 posted on 12/04/2015 4:39:50 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Sorry, I like Cruz and can’t stand Linda, but if it were my daughter or wife...

Ultimately, the babie's life is more important than the emotional well-being of your wife/daughter.

Furthermore, I'd have to believe, that given your wife/daughter are moral people, that the long term effects, emotionally and spiritually, of aborting a baby would be much, MUCH worse than the emotional pain of bringing the baby to full birth. There is always adoption.

There simply is no excuse, from a moral perspective, of murdering an unborn baby, unless it is something like a tubal ligation, which even now, it appears that the medical community is working on a solution for.
23 posted on 12/04/2015 4:45:03 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Rape is highly unlikely to result in pregnancy, but to be certain of preventing pregnancy, there is always “Plan B”, aka the morning-after pill.

I would never condone using Plan B on a routine basis, but in the case of rape, I doubt that one use will pose any long-term health effects.

In the event that a pregnancy results anyway, I would rather the woman be given caring support, not pressured to kill the baby. Yes, it is a baby conceived in rape, but it is also HER baby. And once a woman has an abortion, she changes physically and emotionally.

I know that the pro-abortion narrative is that whenever a woman conceives a child that is not planned and wanted, her reaction is to want to snuff the kid ASAP. However, that just is not true. Women are programmed biologically to want their kids and to feel motherly as soon as pregnancy occurs.


30 posted on 12/04/2015 4:57:08 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

If some BLM type did that to my daughter, I’m with you. Not popular, but that’s the truth for me. Id be sure she got Plan B so fast it’d make your head spin. Besides, plan B is just a big dose of normal birth control.
Nothing immoral about the pill.


33 posted on 12/04/2015 5:01:03 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I worked with a man whose wife was raped (Different race, perp was jailed , wife gave birth), needless to say the child, father and grandfather are better men than me or you.


35 posted on 12/04/2015 5:03:05 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I guess my thought were it my daughter would be how it would affect her. IMHO having an abortion would be much more damaging to my daughter than having the baby. It’s not an easy fix. Even before I was pro-life, I heard that a woman I knew had had five abortions. I was appalled. I have never known a woman who was raped and got pregnant. Both my pregnancies were wanted babies. So at the age of 67 I try to be careful about telling others what to believe but I sincerely believe that if my daughter or daughter in law or heaven forbid my granddaughter were to be raped and to conceive, I would be there and encourage that woman to have the baby, both for the baby and for the mother.


42 posted on 12/04/2015 5:44:30 PM PST by Mercat (attempting to catch a Chewbacca fart and paint it green.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I used to think that until I realized that a baby is a baby is a baby. Why should a child be killed for the sin of his/her father?

Not only that, but studies have shown that carrying that child to term is less traumatic for the mother than killing it through abortion. I would never want the murder of an innocent weighing on my daughter’s soul. Adoption is by far the best way to bring beauty from ashes.


45 posted on 12/04/2015 5:56:51 PM PST by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Just showing your human self - many here say they believe in one thing or another but manage to find "exceptions" that make sense to them.

One never really knows until the situation is upon him and then should pray before deciding.

51 posted on 12/05/2015 4:51:10 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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