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To: Hostage

“I do my homework”

As do I. This, from Gallup:


Democrats maintain their six-point edge in party identification when independents’ “partisan leanings” are taken into account. In addition to the 31% of Americans who identify as Democrats, another 16% initially say they are independents but when probed say they lean to the Democratic Party. An equivalent percentage, 16%, say they are independent but lean to the Republican Party, on top of the 25% of Americans identifying as Republicans. All told, then, 47% of Americans identify as Democrats or lean to the Democratic Party, and 41% identify as Republicans or lean to the Republican Party.


For Trump to win a three- way, he’d have to overcome the fact Hillary is going draw the votes of the huge majority of democrats and democrat leaners (you can NOT deny the huge majority of female voters goes to her). The Repub candidate will receive at least half of that 41% leaning GOP, because whether we in FReeper land like it or not, many GOP voters do indeed like the RINO-ish wing of the party. The remainder will either do their customary act of either staying home or writing in someone else. The numbers simply aren’t there.

Meanwhile, head-to-head, There’s not a single survey that does NOT show Trump loses by double-digit margins to Hillary, and even to Sanders. Subtract away half of the support Trump gets in those polls and flow it to the GOP to wargame a three-way, and it’s a runaway for the dems.

Wishing for a three-way Trump victory makes for a fun diversion. Realizing it is something else. The numbers simply aren’t there.


113 posted on 07/25/2015 1:43:08 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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To: ScottinVA
*correction for clarification:

After Trump receives his portion of the total GOP leaners, remainder will either do their customary act of either staying home or writing in someone else. The numbers

114 posted on 07/25/2015 1:47:38 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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To: ScottinVA
Never do your 'homework' using Gallup. They are a cheap poll that uses garbage sampling and old baseline data.They don't update their baseline because it's too expensive for them. At best Gallup is accurate only when it is obvious what the trend is and if they can't get accuracy they refrain from publishing to avoid looking foolish opting for some subgroup analysis instead from which they can sell their soundbite results. And in statistics the usage of subgroup results is notorious for misleading inference. Gallup results are usually skewed to liberal sound bites.

Gallup is behind and irrelevant if what you post is true. I will take it as true that you found a Gallup blurb from which you carry forth their garbage.

Democrats maintain their six-point edge in party identification when independents’ “partisan leanings” are taken into account.

Wishful thinking on the part of the Gallup editor coupled with old data. And yes I say editor because I know these guys and they will use and mix statistics to get the sound bite material that the liberal media networks want to hear. That's how they keep their subscription rates up. If the media were predominantly conservative, the reverse would be true.

In addition to the 31% of Americans who identify as Democrats, another 16% initially say they are independents but when probed say they lean to the Democratic Party.

Here is the deception. The 16% they say lean democrat and the 16% they say lean republican add to 32% which is 10% short of the actual 42% that are registered Independent. And the 10% left out are conservative. That translates to 26% that are conservative which is just 2% short of the estimate I posted and my estimate is the low end estimate.

There is your fail. You're not using actual statistical data and you can't use actual data because you're not a professional nor are you financially capable to hire Gallup to acquire data to answer your questions. You're using lies put forth by brands that are known to be in the democrats camp like the lie that 97% of scientists say that man-made global warming exists. Gallup is not a respected source but they are a brand name because the large liberal media works subscribe to them and disseminate garbage results right down to the local news broadcasters. So the name Gallup is a brand like Coke or Pepsi. But the ingredients of Gallup are garbage and most often opposite to the truth.

Unfortunately you've revealed yourself to be a lightweight, actually a nobody when it comes to statistical analysis. Most longtime Freepers reading would see you use Gallup results and immediately write you off.

121 posted on 07/25/2015 7:21:09 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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