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To: Fantasywriter
CNN announced that this was the only BC Obama could EVER produce, because after HI went digital all paper records were “discarded.”

An official from the Hawaii Health Department quickly contradicted that:

"We don't destroy vital records," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said. "That's our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records."

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2009/Jul/28/ln/hawaii907280345.html

And no, CNN never explained how a piece of paper which had been “discarded” years before could suddenly reappear.

We have always been at war with Eastasia. There have always been two birth certificates.

Here's something else the MSM never explained. If the released long form is legit, the most probable explanation for the Health Department's failure to release copies to the media is that Obama refused to consent. If that was the case, it would have put Health Department Director Chiyome Fukino in an impossible situation. It would have been illegal for her to release any of Obama's documents without his consent, and it would have been political dynamite for her to state that Obama had directly refused to provide that consent. That might explain her ridiculous press statement, in which she said that she had seen "the original vital records" without specifying which documents she had seen, and without explaining why she had not released them.

61 posted on 07/24/2015 8:34:08 PM PDT by TChad
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To: TChad

“Here’s something else the MSM never explained. If the released long form is legit, the most probable explanation for the Health Department’s failure to release copies to the media is that Obama refused to consent. If that was the case, it would have put Health Department Director Chiyome Fukino in an impossible situation. It would have been illegal for her to release any of Obama’s documents without his consent, and it would have been political dynamite for her to state that Obama had directly refused to provide that consent. That might explain her ridiculous press statement, in which she said that she had seen “the original vital records” without specifying which documents she had seen, and without explaining why she had not released them.”


Dr. Fukino did specify what vital record she saw. Here’s her original October 31, 2008 statement in its entirety:
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.”

When Obama held his April 27, 2011 news conference to announce the release of the long form birth certificate, each member of the Washington Press Corps who attended the news conference received a press packet that contained photocopies of both the short form Certification of Live Birth and the long form Certificate of Live Birth and also in the press packet were copies of the correspondence about the birth certificate between the White House and Hawaii’s Department of Health.

From the Huffington Post:
“Last Friday, the president himself wrote Loretta J. Fuddy, the director of health at the State of Hawaii, requesting “two certified copies of my original certificate of live birth.” Fuddy complied. Shortly thereafter, the president’s counsel, Judith Corley of the firm Perkins Coie, flew to Hawaii to pick up two copies of the form. The trip was not taxpayer funded but, rather, paid out of the president’s personal account. Corley returned on Tuesday at roughly 4 p.m. with the copies. The White House announced a “morning gaggle” for reporters shortly thereafter. One aide explained that they did not want to “hold” on to the documents for release on a later date.

Many members of the press confessed to being “stunned” as it became clear what was about to be discussed. White House press assistants handed out a six-page stapled packet of photocopies showing the new and old birth certificates as well as the White House’s legal correspondence with Hawaii’s Department of Health.

And yet it was the press that played a large role in forcing the administration’s hand. CNN’s Ed Henry had pressed White House Press Secretary Jay Carney on the issue just one day earlier, despite the fact that his own network had done a thorough investigation debunking the claims of the conspiracy theorists.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-r_n_854248.html

Savannah Guthrie of NBC News and Scott Applewhite, a photographer for the Associated Press took photos of the long form copy that was released to Obama. Guthrie used her cell phone camera to take a picture.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/white_house_releases_obama_bir.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42779923/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-releases-detailed-us-birth-certificate/#.VbPBkH-COrU


62 posted on 07/25/2015 10:23:29 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: TChad

That is excellent analysis. If one thing in all this is crystal clear, it is that Obama didn’t want to release ANYTHING. The hue and cry had to reach a certain pitch, if you recall, before he would even release the flimsy COLB. After that it took years, and eventually Trump’s loud public ridicule, to elicit the pathetic cut and paste job they passed off as a LFBC.

Apart from other issues, it is obvious the LFBC is a fake from the ‘home address’ listed. It is a residence at which Stanley Ann did not live either before or after the birth. Iow, it is false info.

The only reason a false address would be used on such a document is that a real/legitimate address was not available. Meaning that, since SAD did not reside in HI at that time, and so had no HI address, an address at which she was not living had to be utilized.

This explains the reference to “the original vital records.” The ‘original vital records’ were the ‘handwritten/something written down’ registration of birth which had been machinated, almost certainly by Madelyn Dunham, to provide her foreign born grandson with US citizenship. She had to use her own address for the registration, since SAD had at that time no HI address of her own.

It is an obvious fraud, perpetrated on an uninformed public by a far left media and a corrupt political class. The truth will eventually come out. For what, by then, it will be worth. Our foreign born ruler has wrecked the US as ONLY an America-hating foreigner could. Shame on him, and on all his defenders and enablers.


63 posted on 07/25/2015 3:50:26 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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