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To: Norm Lenhart; Yaelle; verga
Norm:

I believe Yaelle is an Orthodox Jew. While I don't think any more than you do about his idea for the platform and agree with you that the platform be kept the same and ENFORCED against the errant legislators, etc., Yaelle posted something elsewhere which was quite worthy of our attention.

The Orthodox Jews have long since learned to "circle the wagons" and repel outside threats. Yaelle said that if you go into a Kosher Delicatessen and demand a ham sandwich, the management will simply say: "We don't carry ham but here is the address of a Polish delicatessen that does. You will be happier there."

Draw analogies to "gays" demanding to be married at St. Patrick's Cathedral by Cardinal Dolan or anywhere by Franklin Graham or in Brooklyn by a Lubavitcher (Chassidic) rabbi. "We don't really have a ritual for that but there is a 'Metropolitan''Church' (or UCC or UMC or ELCA) right across town that might accommodate you."

If that does not thwart this trend, refuse to apply for marriage licenses from government any more since marriage was none of its infernal business in the first place and since government obviously no longer understands the meaning of the word marriage. Remember the scene in Braveheart when William Wallace marries his wife Murrin in the woods before a priest, triggering no notice to the local Brit poobah and therefore refusing the poobah the "right" of First Night or Prima Nocte with her? That was under the rule of an allegedly "Christian" Brit tyranny that enshrined mandatory adultery in law OR ELSE.

We must learn from the Orthodox Jews to circle the wagons while we establish our underground resistance.

We shall obey God and not these heathens.

We must also educate our own children in our homes and according to our standards and morals and knowledge of history.

Our organizations and associations are OUR business and none of the government's business.

Above all, we must stop the comfy pretense that this is still the government that served our fathers and grandfathers going back to the Founders.

77 posted on 06/28/2015 1:58:03 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

I don’t care if he’s from Mars. He wants us to move on. Thats complete crap. And that attitude is why we keep losing. Because everyone just says ‘oh well’ and moves on. They know they will move on if things get tough so why fight?

I’m not feeling a lot of confidence in a guy that says one thing one moment and another the next. Will he move on when he loses the wagon circle too?


78 posted on 06/28/2015 2:04:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BlackElk

I’m clapping. Well said. I am a practicing conservative Jew who is a lot closer to Orthodox than to the liberal reform Jew Lite version.

If you are a baker and your bakery loves to do weddings, show them, say, three wedding packages. Make all the cakes Christian with a cross or something and the bride and groom on top. If Adam and Steve come in, give them right away the number of a great gay baker. You only do these three wedding cakes. Period. This should be perfectly legal.


83 posted on 06/28/2015 7:30:44 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way...")
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