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Beyond Rand: The GOP Can Win Black Votes
The Daily Beast ^ | June 1, 2015 | Keli Goff

Posted on 06/01/2015 8:06:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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I don't agree with much of this, but I'm posting it for discussion.
1 posted on 06/01/2015 8:06:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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The only black votes I’m concerned about are the ones we don’t have to pander for.


2 posted on 06/01/2015 8:07:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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We’ve got the black votes we can win. They are blacks who are independent, conservative, and have intact families, that generally do not live in the urban feral neighborhoods.

These are the decent citizens from that community that do not feel entitled to live off other folks’ money because they think they deserve it and its their reparations from whitey.


3 posted on 06/01/2015 8:10:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I personally know blacks here who vote Republican and I know others who say they are planning to vote GOP because they hate Hillary.


4 posted on 06/01/2015 8:12:32 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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What about this section:

“Chelsi Henry is a young, black lawyer in her twenties who became the first registered Republican in her family. Born to a teen mother, she found the GOP’s message and values to resonate with her because they were the values her mother had instilled in her, including economic personal responsibility. She also cares about issues like school choice. Though Henry has not yet picked a candidate, it is worth noting that Sen. Ted Cruz surprised many by teaming up with black Democrats to push school choice, calling it “the civil rights issue of the 21st century.” With polls showing minority parents statistically more likely to support issues like school choice, since their kids are more likely to be faced with failing public schools, school choice is another issue that may give an opening to a GOP candidate to chip away at black voters in key states, and not just Ted Cruz.”


5 posted on 06/01/2015 8:13:57 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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the republican candidate can ask them where the dems have gotten them the past fifty years. we cant keep losing 13 percent of the vote right off the bat. even if we got to 20 percent, it would make a huge difference. I know, I’m probably dreaming.
getting black pastors involved might help. restoring family could be the message


6 posted on 06/01/2015 8:15:14 PM PDT by dp0622
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Black pastors by and large are liberation theology folks that hate whitey and think whites are the devil. Don’t think that kind of stuff isn’t transmitted to the congregations.

Black Jesus isn’t just some thing the Onion made up for humor.


7 posted on 06/01/2015 8:17:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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The black vote is irrelevant for presidential purposes to the GOP. It is too small to begin with, its largest proportions are concentrated in states like Louisiana and Mississippi that the GOP will carry anyway, and the compromises required to gain just a sliver more of the vote would alienate many white voters.

As an electoral matter, it would make a lot more sense to try and capture a few more percentage points of the white electorate (which would swing the election) than a few more points of the black or hispanic electorates (which would not).


8 posted on 06/01/2015 8:20:21 PM PDT by seacapn
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For every Chelsi Henry, there are thousands of died-in-the-wool welfare gibmedats, unfortunately.


9 posted on 06/01/2015 8:23:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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We need to use the wins we've already gotten. For instance, GOP led school choice policies. In Detroit parents are fleeing public schools in favor of the 66 charter schools already operating in the city.

Our Children, Our Choice
10 posted on 06/01/2015 8:25:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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Another good GOP stance to be used to attract black voters.

More African-Americans Support Carrying Legal Guns For Self-Defense
11 posted on 06/01/2015 8:27:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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I tend to agree with you. For us to win any sizable percentage of the Black vote we would have to pander for it, and I’m tired of watering down conservatism to attract their miniscule number of votes. Better to try and win the votes of second and third generation Hispanics who tend to get more conservative as they assimilate into American culture and Asian voters who are upwardly mobile and successful.


12 posted on 06/01/2015 8:31:26 PM PDT by dowcaet
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If a Hispanic goes into a voting booth without someone to tell them what to do and sees the name “Cruz” opposite O’Malley, Sanders, Warren or Clinton, what do you think they’ll do in many cases? LOL


13 posted on 06/01/2015 8:35:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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Exactly. At this point an outreach program to Black voters is a waste of time. Black voters will continue to give 95% of their vote in every election to the Democrats. I wonder though how Blacks will react when the growing Hispanic voting bloc will ascend to the leadership of the Democratic Party, and make the Black vote not as critical as it has been in the past few decades.


14 posted on 06/01/2015 8:35:41 PM PDT by dowcaet
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Yup. Identity politics is what Blacks and Latinos tend to follow. I find it funny how liberal people of color try to make Ben Carson less “Black” and Ted Cruz less “Latino to justify their voting for a liberal candidate like Hillary.


15 posted on 06/01/2015 8:40:15 PM PDT by dowcaet
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16 posted on 06/01/2015 8:45:02 PM PDT by Ken H
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No, the GOP can’t win black votes.


17 posted on 06/01/2015 9:17:01 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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First the GOP will have to realize the concerns of black people.


18 posted on 06/01/2015 9:25:44 PM PDT by FreeInWV
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Actually since many black voters are in NY, CA and Ill where if they all switch to the GOP the states would still go Dim and many more blacks are in AL, LA, SC, MS, GA, etc where the GOP already is assured of a win, in fact the GOP can continue to lose 13% of the electorate right off the bat.

Certainly winning more black votes in FL, Oh, Va, Wi, PA and MI might turn elections. So if I were the GOP that is where I would focus my efforts.


19 posted on 06/01/2015 9:55:35 PM PDT by JLS
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Pres Reagan and Newt Gingrich helped me become a Conservative Republican. I think had Rand Paul been in the leadership back then I would not have found the GOP so attractive as a Christian/black cause at times he sounds just like Al Sharpton blaming America & not acknowledging personal responsibility.


20 posted on 06/01/2015 9:56:29 PM PDT by RginTN
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