[TwelveOfTwenty]

All this tells me is that Romney won among independents. It doesn't tell me whether it was the Conservatives or the independents who stayed home.

One thing those numbers do show is that we, Conservatives, are outnumbered. We need candidate who can with both the right and the middle. That's why I think we'll need to nominate a woman to win in 2016.

But if Cruz gets the nomination, I'm in.

[CatherineofAragon]

"All this tells me is that Romney won among independents."

That was one of the points on which we differed.

" It doesn't tell me whether it was the Conservatives or the independents who stayed home."

That's been documented by numerous sources, including Rush Limbaugh, and discussed here at FR. It's easily found by searching the site or putting the keywords into Google. Three million conservatives stayed at home in 2012.

"One thing those numbers do show is that we, Conservatives, are outnumbered. We need candidate who can with both the right and the middle."

You can only think that by ignoring the previous facts, and history itself. Every time we have a moderate candidate who preoccupies himself with snaring the middle, we lose. I really don't understand how many losses it's going to take before people get it.

" That's why I think we'll need to nominate a woman to win in 2016."

Right, that's going to help. Just like blacks flocked to Allen West, Herman Cain, etc.

"But if Cruz gets the nomination, I'm in."

Same here.