Posted on 09/29/2014 7:22:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Allah Pundit and McCain praising Paul is all you need to know.
Allah Pundit and McCain praising Paul is all you need to know.
Darn, he has snagged that all important McCain endorsement.
Except for Ted Cruz, what a disgusting, disappointing bunch of 2016 Republican wannabes. A rogues gallery of GOPe-RINO-Libertarian losers: Bush, Christie, Huckabee, Santorum, Paul, Romney (again!?), Kasich, Pence, Daniels, Jindal, Ryan, Martinez, Walker, etc. All will sprint to the left to show how “moderate” they are, exactly the wrong strategy to defeat Hillary Clinton.
Why I don’t give anything to the ‘Pubs any more.
Yep, Twister, I agree fully.
The funny thing is that his foreign policy hasn’t changed. It’s been remarkably coherent and consistent.
Two wacko birds in a pod.
Why so many good conservatives lose elections all if you need to win is to be a strong conservative?
Most primaries this year were won by centrist republicans. If conservatives can’t even win primaries with only republicans voting, how do you expect them to win in general election with democrats also voting?
What good is losing elections? How does that help move the conservative agenda? Losers of elections have zero power to change anything. If you don’t believe me, ask:
Ken Cuccinelli, good conservative, running for governor
Richard Mourdock, good conservative, running for Senate
Sharron Angle, good conservative, running for Senate
Christine O’Donnell, good conservative, running for Senate
George Allen, good conservative, running for Senate
Joe Miller, good conservative, running for Senate
Ken Buck, good conservative, running for Senate
Todd Akin, good conservative, running for Senate
Alan West, good conservative, running for House
Doug Hoffman, good conservative, running for House
JD Hayworth, good conservative, running for Primary
Barry Goldwater, good conservative, running for president
1. Many states now have open primaries, in which ‘RATS can and do create mischief by voting for weak “centrist” ‘Pubs.
2. Other states have have open, “top two” primaries, in which the two candidates with the greatest number of votes, regardless of party affiliation, win the primary and face off in the general. There is no direct, intraparty contest among Republicans.
3. Your list are not all “good conservatives” — some crullers in there.
4. The media make sure you hear about “good conservatives” losing primaries and some generals, but GOPe RINO Rovian losses, while more numerous, are downplayed. There are a number of successes against GOPe money and RAT party organization, including Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, and Dave Bratt. Marco Rubio, too, although he's becoming pliable in his views.
5. Ronald Reagan. If you were too young / not yet born in 1980, the GOPe did their worst to defeat him. They succeeded narrowly in 1976 with Ford, but couldn't do it four years later with GHWB. Reagan won by a landslide, attracting ‘Pubs, Reagan Democrats, and independents. He won by a bigger landslide in 1984.
When John McCain endorses something it's best to see what he's selling us out on next before BOHICA time comes. McCain's endorsements IMO are warnings to do just the opposite by reflex.
OK Now how many where Centrist won primaries had open primaries? It's bad enough dealing with the likes of Rove trying to pick the party choice but the stuck on stupid GOP refuses to close it's primaries in many states including mine. The end result is in what should be easy Conservative win primaries the DEMs not running a challenger to the RINO vote in GOP primaries. For example the re-election of Lamoderate Alexander the Liberal newspapers beloved and See Saw Corker. Now whom do you think they vote for?
On the other hand in the General election Conservative DEMs {yes they are out there} will often cross the fence for such but will stay in their party for RINO's. A good principled conservative would have likely had landslide wins over Gore and Kerry. A good principled Conservative would have won against Obama. Instead the media beloved McCain waved a white flag. The GOP Establishment Hierarchy has become as bad if not worse than the most radical of DEMs because they are ENABLERS to the DEMs Agendas. I'd like to see a 1994 pissed off mad and not going to take it anymore GOP. That was the last time it happened. Then Boehner took over the party. If you need proof do a search on the name Bill Paxon. There you will see just what happened starting back before the 1996 elections. Boehner engineered a hostile GOP-E takeover and he was the one who got Newt booted out. Most Freepers don't even know that. Paxon was Bohners go to man. He was a congressman from NY state. Remember former NY Congresswoman Susan Malanari the keynote speaker who with Christie Todd Whittman-RINO LIBERAL liberalized the 1996 GOP Convention? Malanari is Paxon's wife. Both are now lobbyist and Boehner is SOH..
The Conservatives need to establish a good media outlet and no FAUX News is not such. One man actually did do it years ago. Paul Weyrich had one going back in the mid 1990's. The GOP-E quickly did a hostile takeover and the sellout began within the party.
Before a person drinks the party Kool Aid it's best to know who mixed it up. At some point it's like a turd in a punch bowl obvious.
You make some good points. The biggest advantage Reagan had was Jimmy Carter. If Carter had not created 15% interest rates and 12% inflation, the 1980 election would have been lot closer.
At the end of day, we can agree that Rino’s lose elections and conservatives lose elections. So why some candidates from each type win and others lose?
I became US citizen in 1970 and voted in 1972 election for the first time. So I have seen a lot of elections and lot of candidates. My take is that candidates win because they are very good politicians, have charisma which makes them likable, have the skills to set up good campaign organizations, look good on TV, and seldom get stymied with gotcha questions. Reagan had almost all of those qualities. McCain was just the opposite. McCain was old, pudgy, short, face disfigured by surgery, bad teeth, balding, and very mediocre in debates. Did not have a chance against a tall, youthful, seasoned community organizer from south side of Chicago.
I do not like Mitt, Jeb, Pence, Jindal etc. because they are not good counter punchers. Hillary will eat them alive. I prefer Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Susana Martinez, and gov Walker because they are all quite good facing media. There is nothing common between my agenda and gov Christy, but I would rather have NJ fats facing Hillary than a mild mannered Mitt or Jeb in debates.
And also, I could not agree more with you that open primaries are very bad for republicans. Not sure if they have a choice in states where legislatures are controlled by demo-rats.
rule of thumb: never trust Juan McCain.
I dislike open primaries also. Who allows them? Is it state legislatures or parties in each state? Do you recall Limbaugh asking republicans to vote for Obama in open primaries to stop Hillary? Hillary was very bad. Obama is much worse than Hillary, if that is possible.
I agree with all your points; good analysis of the situation.
It varies state to state. Some states don't even hold them which IMO makes matters worse. For office of POTUS the primaries need to be held same day and closed primary. Anyone even thinking about switching parties before a primary should be locked out of the upcoming primary {one primary election cycle} from voting. That would stop a lot of this and make cleaning up both parties of tyrants possible again through the voting process.
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