Posted on 06/27/2014 8:47:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Nothing unusual or wrong about Willie Horton Ad. My point was to make a case that American politics is hard boiled and not very gentle. Lies & insinuations are part and parcel in politics. The Rats are much more vicious at this game.
Recall the Ad which said more black churches will burn down if a Republican president is elected.
When Cochran ran those falls Ads and robo-calls, McDaniel should have responded quickly in same manner. But he either did not want to do it or had no funds to do it.
Incumbents usually have the money advantage. But I am not for 100% tax payer funded campaigns either. Success in money matters should have it’s advantages.
Not really. If you let the Rat candidate win, he/she becomes incumbent in the next election. Incumbents get re-elected at almost 90% rate. Because they can squeeze much more campaign cash from constituents when in power.
You have nothing against the ad...except that you called it “blasphemy”.
I’ll put up the exact quote if you like.
No need to repeat my post...my post’s main point was that American politics is a bruising affair. 50% of political ads are negative. Cochran is no different. Under 1st Amendment he is allowed to use any negative Ads he wants. Only way to counter that is publish your own ads and robo calls.
That is why incumbents win 80-90% of the time. They have access to bigger campaign cash. Which is why I would hate for the Rat to win MS in November. He then becomes the incumbent. I would hate like hell for Harry Reid to continue majority leader solely based on MS result. Reid has blocked every good bill passed by the House,,,every one! I am pretty sure this will be Cochran’s last term if he wins in November.
Democrats in South Carolina or Mississippi will not be re-elected as an incumbents - but pathetic RINOs will. Better to have a democrat 6 years than RINOs for decades.
Impossible for Cochran to last decades...he will be lucky to live through 6 years.
Did Ted Cruz declare support for Cochran?
If true, who is left?
Sarah Palin?
DO you recall 40 years of ream job without grease of conservatives when the Rats ruled the congress?
Sorry, I do not want to be screwed by the Rats with veto proof majorities.
I shudder to think what Rat Obummer and Rat Reid and Rat Pelosi would have done if the republican did not control the House. Obamacare passed when the Rats controlled the House with Speaker Pelosi.
Thanks but NO THANKS!
Coming from Yahoo it means McDaniel is doing exactly what he should.
Here is your quote. It doesn’t match your explanation. In fact, your explanation isn’t even in the same ballpark as this bizarre, inaccurate characterization:
“Easy. 1000 times more Willie Horton clones were released early and caused no further mayhem. Therefore showing a black man in those ads without the background historical facts is blasphemy at best.”
Stop pivoting. Focus on my MAIN POINT....
Politics is a blood sport. Negative Ads are part and parcel of politics. Every candidate has the right (under 1st Amendment) to show opposition in the worst possible light.
Cochran has the right to negative Ads about McDaniel. The only counter punch is negative Ads by McDaniel.
Your problem is that you can’t distinguish between facts, smears & lies. You called the Willie Horton ad a “blasphemy”, when it was simply factual. As governor, Dukakis thought it was a good idea to let murderers out on weekend furloughs. While out, they raped & terrorized the community. Voters had an urgent need to know that this was the kind of insane, moonbat-liberal, moronically-stupid policy Dukakis implemented. Far from blasphemous, the ads were a patriotic service.
Cochran did not use facts in his negative attacks. He used lies and smears. Anyone who can’t tell the difference is mentally & morally challenged.
Cochran has 1st Amendment right to use anything in his Ads.
If the content is lies and smears as you claim, the he can be sued for libel by the McDaniel campaign. Is such a suit coming soon? If not you are just blowing hot air.
Let’s list the facts...
1. Cochran is a RINO
2. McDaniel is TEA party
3. Cochran had lot more campaign cash available
4. McDaniel had committed supporters but not enough cash.
5. Cochran used his superior money advantage for negative Ads
6. McDaniel could not run counter-attack Ads for lack of funds.
7. 30,000+ Democrats came out to vote for Cochran
8. If the democrats did not vote in primary, they were eligible voters in the runoff.
9. If more than 7000 of those democrats voted in democrat primary, then their votes in run off are illegal. But unless that can be proven, Cochran wins legally.
In summary, incumbents usually have more campaign funds than challengers. That is why they are re-elected 85-90% of the time. If Cochran wins legally, I do not want the democrat to win in general because then he becomes incumbent in 6 years.
Not to my knowledge .. I have not even heard a word that he did. I think he’s smarter than that.
‘If the content is lies and smears as you claim, the he can be sued for libel by the McDaniel campaign. Is such a suit coming soon? If not you are just blowing hot air.’
You’re living in an alternate universe. Dems smear Republicans single campaign cycle. Lies are allowed. No one is ever sued. Are you really this uninformed, or is something even worse wrong on your end?
The difference here is that a Republican used vile lies and smears against a fellow Republican. That rarely happens, & has never happened to this degree. Cochran used low-life, shameless, unconscionable tactics against a Conservative. That is why & how he essentially split the GOP, & there will be hell to pay for years to come.
Wes Pruden has been around the political block a few times. I doubt his wisdom will do you any good, but fwiw:
“After [Cochran] ran a close second in the preferential primary, he was widely regarded as a dead duck. The men with the most to lose if the senator lost, led by Haley Barbour, the former governor and a big-time Washington lobbyist, went to work. They revived a strategy that worked in the past, organizing black preachers and white unionists who ordinarily couldn’t find a clothespin big enough to keep the stink out of their nostrils when forced into close quarters with a Republican. Soon they were employing all the old tactics the segregationists once used, the “walking-around money” distributed to preachers in storefront churches to get out the vote, rumor, innuendo and finally to the not-so-subtle race-baiting that once worked so well.
The reminder of the bad old days, which have no legitimate echo today, worked. In Jackson and surrounding Hinds County, where 16,649 voters cast ballots for the candidates three weeks ago, 24,889 voters cast ballots this time — in a county with only 20,567 Republicans registered to vote. Thousands of those voters were in black neighborhoods, where “Republican” is a reviled word. The pattern was repeated even more emphatically in the Delta counties along the Mississippi River.
The black preachers and politicians, Democrats all, now rightly claim credit for saving Mr. Cochran from the evil Tea Party Republicans, and they’re entitled to their reward, such as it may be. They should bear in mind that the senator is not likely to show any more loyalty to them than he has shown to his own party. He will likely disappoint everyone but the lobbyists who used race and resentment to aid his escape from oblivion. If he wants to do the really honorable thing, he would consider switching parties.
Betrayal is a dangerous game. The gains are nearly always for a shorter term than expected. The establishment Republicans have a lot to say about big tents and party loyalty, but when someone without “the smell of the hive” unexpectedly upsets their candidate, there’s the urge to squash and pout.
The Tea Party is a blunt instrument, a reaction to establishment arrogance. Their candidates are new to the game, always bold, usually brash and sometimes unsophisticated, and learning. But they’re not going away. “The duel between the Hatfields and the McCoys is far from settled,” says one Republican strategist. In fact, it has barely begun.”
Wesley Pruden is editor emeritus of The Washington Times.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/26/pruden-race-baiting-and-betrayal-in-mississippi/#ixzz360fGiaBN
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What are they going to do if he refuses? Not let him be senator?
Are you kidding? Do you recall how nasty the last presidential primaries were?
Santorum, Newt and Romney were at each others throat.
Negative Ads and robo calls galore.
The senate primary in Alaska was very nasty.
Like I said, politics is a blood sport.
If you can’t stand the heat, get out of kitchen.
Again, if illegal voting was done in MS, then McDaniel should be able to win in court. If the Rat voters were legal, then Cochran is the legitimate winner. I hope McDaniel has enough funds to carry out the task of determinng legality of voters in the runoff.
It doesn’t get worse than calling someone a racist in today’s society. PC has made that the ultimate crime. So Cochran lied & called McDaniel a racist. & you’re defending him. Sorry, but you sound like a liberal.
Your description of the Willie Horton ad was liberalism on crack. & btw, you were 100% wrong about the ad. You lost credibility by being SO wrong, & lost even more by not admitting your error. Blasphemy indeed.
Also, your neverending mantra about incumbents could not miss the mark more. Cochran, though an incumbent, LOST the primary. He lost to McDaniel. This is b/c the Republicans of MS are tired of being represented by a senile Dem.
So what did Cochran & Co do? They went out and HIRED liberal Democrats to flip the will of the ***Republican*** voters in the ***Republican*** primary. And as if that wasn’t enough, they smeared McDaniel as a racist. In none of the examples you gave did the dirt get nearly so vile.
What is the matter with you, that you have no moral compass? All you have is moral equivalency, which is the abject absence of morality. Also, it is the keystone of modern liberalism. Something is very wrong here. You need to admit what it is.
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