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1 posted on 12/15/2013 4:06:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, there's the "profoundly stupid" Senate Conservative Fund, that sent a lot of moola to help Cruz and Rubio and are now trying to displace McConnell . . .
2 posted on 12/15/2013 4:12:32 PM PST by cornelis
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There is truth to the notion that involvement in Tea Party activism that “replaces” local GOP evolvement to the Rinos is a mistake. It gives them the entrenched vehicle without a fight.


3 posted on 12/15/2013 4:15:48 PM PST by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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“What do you think.”

I think perhaps he is being straight armed, possibly deemed as no asset to his Tea Party neighborhood.


4 posted on 12/15/2013 4:21:03 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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Sounds like somebody wants an organization that can be targeted.


5 posted on 12/15/2013 4:25:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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I think I like the original better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_gSWTQKE-0


6 posted on 12/15/2013 4:27:01 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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This is a very thoughtful and thought-provoking article...thanks for posting!

IMHO, the American electorate needs to come together, and "re-take" our country. This means, "old-time" Democrats who can't stand the way the "Progressives" are running things, and "old-time Republicans" who have to get out of the "country club" mentality, and Tea Party conservatives, who have to realize that too many people either don't understand their goals, or don't yet agree with their principles.

As the Bible says, "a house divided cannot stand"...and the Tea Party is not just a "pressure release valve", BUT, as loath as I am to say this, there must be some agreement on very basic issues (which will still inevitably involve "compromise"), and then the rest must be built from there.

Hopefully before it's too late. JMHO.

7 posted on 12/15/2013 4:27:24 PM PST by 88keys ("work and purpose"...)
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The author needs to do a bit more research before he writes:

(Lou Costello is considering becoming a ballplayer. Bud Abbott wants to make sure he knows what he’s getting into.)

Abbott: Strange as it may seem, they give ball players nowadays very peculiar names.

Costello: Funny names?

Abbott: Nicknames, nicknames. Now, on the St. Louis team we have Who’s on first, What’s on second, I Don’t Know is on third—

Costello: That’s what I want to find out. I want you to tell me the names of the fellows on the St. Louis team.

Abbott: I’m telling you. Who’s on first, What’s on second, I Don’t Know is on third—

Costello: You know the fellows’ names?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: Well, then who’s playing first?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: I mean the fellow’s name on first base.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The fellow playin’ first base.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy on first base.

Abbott: Who is on first.

Costello: Well, what are you askin’ me for?

Abbott: I’m not asking you—I’m telling you. Who is on first.

Costello: I’m asking you—who’s on first?

Abbott: That’s the man’s name.

Costello: That’s who’s name?

Abbott: Yes.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Costello: When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?

Abbott: Every dollar of it. And why not, the man’s entitled to it.

Costello: Who is?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: So who gets it?

Abbott: Why shouldn’t he? Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.

Costello: Who’s wife?

Abbott: Yes. After all, the man earns it.

Costello: Who does?

Abbott: Absolutely.

Costello: Well, all I’m trying to find out is what’s the guy’s name on first base?

Abbott: Oh, no, no. What is on second base.

Costello: I’m not asking you who’s on second.

Abbott: Who’s on first!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Costello: St. Louis has a good outfield?

Abbott: Oh, absolutely.

Costello: The left fielder’s name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: I don’t know, I just thought I’d ask.

Abbott: Well, I just thought I’d tell you.

Costello: Then tell me who’s playing left field?

Abbott: Who’s playing first.

Costello: Stay out of the infield! The left fielder’s name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: Because.

Abbott: Oh, he’s center field.

Costello: Wait a minute. You got a pitcher on this team?

Abbott: Wouldn’t this be a fine team w i t h o u t a pitcher?

Costello: Tell me the pitcher’s name.

Abbott: Tomorrow.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Costello: Now, when the guy at bat bunts the ball—me being a good catcher—I want to throw the guy out at first base, so I pick up the ball and throw it to who?

Abbott: Now, that’s he first thing you’ve said right.

Costello: I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!

Abbott: Don’t get excited. Take it easy.

Costello: I throw the ball to first base, whoever it is grabs the ball, so the guy runs to second. Who picks up the ball and throws it to what. What throws it to I don’t know. I don’t know throws it back to tomorrow—a triple play.

Abbott: Yeah, it could be.

Costello: Another guy gets up and it’s a long ball to center.

Abbott: Because.

Costello: Why? I don’t know. And I don’t care.

Abbott: What was that?

Costello: I said, I DON’T CARE!

Abbott: Oh, that’s our shortstop!


8 posted on 12/15/2013 4:27:31 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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"Where the Tea Party is failing America is that it exists as it does. It is not a political party, so it does not have a formal agenda, or platform, and does not have an organization and democratically elected leadership. It is impossible to know who’s in it, who’s behind it, or what its true purpose is. "

This is the strength, not a failing.

9 posted on 12/15/2013 4:30:51 PM PST by Paladin2
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It is not a political party, so it does not have a formal agenda, or platform, and does not have an organization and democratically elected leadership. It is impossible to know who’s in it, who’s behind it, or what its true purpose is.

The good thing about tea parties (plural) are ideals. The bad thing is that many that are organized tend to have big fish in small pond syndrome and it becomes ego, not ideas. As far as "democratically elected" leadership goes, that's for members of that party to decide, not you.

The Tea Party is not allowed to coalesce into America’s new Second party to replace the Republican.

Because VOTERS do not allow third parties to be anything but spoilers. Third parties always failed, fail now, and fail in the future.

10 posted on 12/15/2013 4:33:23 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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there’s a group just up the road;

ramonatead.com

great group,meets once a month.


11 posted on 12/15/2013 4:38:06 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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I think the idea that there is the ruling elite, the controllers, is a belief held quite firmly on the left, and is nearly ubiquitous among the Occupy types.

Ostensible conservatives also hold these beliefs, as does this writer.

But I think these are destructive beliefs to have on many levels. Conservatives should stay as far away as possible from these sort of self defeating and self constraining beliefs.


20 posted on 12/15/2013 5:10:57 PM PST by ifinnegan
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Come 2014 people will see the power of the Tea Party.


30 posted on 12/15/2013 5:54:22 PM PST by plainshame
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The Tea Party’s strength is that it is *not* a hierarchical organization.

The rules of hierarchical organizations are well known, as are the techniques to destroy them, from both within (subversion) and without. But non-hierarchical organizations are “Teflon”. There is no way for a hierarchical organization to attack them, or even interface with them.

But this does not mean that the Tea Party cannot function, and function powerfully enough to kick seven bells out of hierarchical organizations.

In practical terms, the Democrats and the Republican party hierarchy are terribly frustrated by the Tea Party, since they are unable to co-opt it to their purposes, neutralize it, take out its “leaders”, destroy its donor base, anything.

Everything you complain of comes from your knowledge of hierarchical organizations. If you just accept the idea that the Tea Party is not such an organization, you can either get frustrated that it makes no sense to you; or you can be part of it. As long as you do not try to craft it into what it is not.

Politically, the Tea Party is doing everything right. It is selectively eroding the liberal Republican leadership, to the point where conservatives will take over the party; and unencumbered by the millstone of treacherous RINOs around its neck, the battle against Democrats will be much easier.


31 posted on 12/15/2013 6:02:50 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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I guess it’s sort of like the Constituiton,it used to carry weight and authority,but no more.
Or maybe like the Constitution,it’s more an idea,no phone number for that,just embeded in the psyche.


38 posted on 12/16/2013 3:47:06 AM PST by ballplayer
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The Tea Party is a movement, it underwrites candidate....It needs a new name, because it isn’t a party at all, it is a way of political life. It’s kind of like the opposite of Marxism.


39 posted on 12/16/2013 4:02:21 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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