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To: Jeff Winston

As far as I can determine, nothing will come of the controversy regarding the eligibility of AKA- Barack Obama, POTUS.

Only the Supreme Court can settle this issue. I speak as a “Birther”, However, I am perplexed by your rigorous defense favoring eligibility.

I am curious, if you have such low esteem for rubes, like myself or other posters on Free Republic, why even bother?

I am not a challenging your examples or arguments, I couldn’t care less. Most of the posters at Free Republic commenting on this subject seemed to be concerned with an absent of an appropriate legal ruling from a high court.

What motivates you to be so interested in persuading those whom are conceivably, unpersuadable?


78 posted on 03/13/2013 8:44:33 PM PDT by notted
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To: notted
What motivates you to be so interested in persuading those whom are conceivably, unpersuadable?

I'm really not so interested in persuading the unpersuadable.

I completely accept that 95% of those posting as birthers on these threads would not be convinced if God himself came down in a great orb of light and told them that "natural born citizen" never required citizen parents for anyone born on US soil.

Do you know what they would say? "Nice visual effects," they would say. "But you can't fool us. You're nothing but a troll."

I suppose my motivation stems from two things. First, those who will be fooled into believing their nonsense if someone doesn't stand up and speak the truth. And secondly, I just don't like lies and misconceptions masquerading as truth.

83 posted on 03/13/2013 9:15:23 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: notted
They won't believe the clear words of the United States Supreme Court.

They won't believe people like President Ronald Reagan's Attorney General, who said:

"Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President."

They won't believe the Heritage Foundation.

They won't believe Constitutional experts like Mark Levin (who publicly noted that Marco Rubio was eligible).

They won't believe National Review.

They won't believe other folks like Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor (a reasonably conservative Justice who was a Reagan appointee to the Court).

They won't believe Father of the Constitution James Madison, who said place of birth was what counted when it came to citizenship.

They won't believe William Rawle, who sat and discussed politics and law with George Washington and Benjamin Franklin on a regular basis.

They won't believe St. George Tucker, or Joseph Story, or Chancellor James Kent, or any of the great legal expert from early in our nation's history.

Why would they believe God?

84 posted on 03/13/2013 9:25:08 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: notted

You know, another thing that sometimes happens by my participating in these threads is that I sometimes run into somebody with whom I may have differences of opinion, but who actually seems sane.

In spite of having identified yourself as a “birther,” for example, you seem sane. So far, at least. Of course, I’ve had conversations start fine and go bad before, but so far, you seem nothing like some of the nutters on these threads.


90 posted on 03/13/2013 10:31:47 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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