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To: dfwgator

I agree.

And for all the chumps who keep pulling the “R” lever and then venting after every election where the GOP pulls a Lucy Van Pelt on conservatives, well, you’re chumps and you’ll likely always be chumps, because you’re not learning the obvious lesson being laid out in front of you.

The way to start a new party is at a state or regional level, and then start picking off everything we can get, from county commissioners to House seats. This can be done and it can be done on a fairly limited budget.

Once enough seats in the House are taken that the GOP has to deal with a third party in Congress, then the GOP can be given an ultimatum.

For those who think that a new political party can’t arise: Tell that to the Whigs.

The fact is, we’re broke as a nation. We have two spendthrift political parties in power and both of them are liars when they say they’ll cut spending. Anyone who knows even basic mathematics can see that the problem with the federal budget (and state budgets) is on the spending side. That the GOP cannot find one program to eliminate completely - zero out the budget, eliminate the employees, sell off the buildings that house them - is an indication that they’ll never be serious about cutting spending.

The debt and spending issue is as big or bigger than the slavery issue of the 1800’s. It is an issue that will define who we are as a nation for decades and decades to come. It is an issue with financial as well as moral/ethical ramifications, just as slavery was.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 5:51:42 PM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

I can see problems with a third party challenge however. It would likely end up the same way that the ‘Dixiecrats’ did. We might win South Carolina and Alabama with effort, but we’d lose places like Montana.

The issue we have is that the Republican party is a coalition of different people. The religiously active conservatives who want pro-life and traditional marriage amendments pursued, and the more moderate, casual conservatives, who are mainly focused on fiscal issues, worry about the debt etc. One of the problems is candidates voted in by the latter group never serve as fiscal conservatives anyway. Look at Boehner.

The challenge for us is patching together social and economic conservatives in a strong way, whether that means starting a new party and doing some very careful planning, or simply working like hell to completely overthrow the GOP-E in 2014. Getting rid of Boehner would be symbolic.


45 posted on 11/09/2012 6:03:42 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: NVDave

What Obama doesn’t understand is that it is DISHONORABLE to keep pulling out the old credit card and swiping it time after time; then demonizing the “rich” because they’re “rich” and not “paying their fair share”.

It’s evil. Sloth is one of the 7 deadly sins. - If I want a scooter, I’ll get me a used scooter. If I want a cellphone (which I don’t), I’ll get myself hooked up with a provider. We’re not rich; and I’m not bragging, but this is evil. - Oh, and I’ll raise and buy my own food and dowdy clothes! House is paid for after 20 years.


64 posted on 11/09/2012 7:21:05 PM PST by Twinkie (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.)
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