Posted on 06/02/2012 9:47:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Romney is the anti-Reagan, the opposite of being a “Reaganite”.
Mitt Romney was weaned on politics, he was born into a politically aggressive, liberal, anti-conservative family in which dad became a Governor and a national figure, ending in a liberal presidential run, and mother was a 1970 liberal Senate candidate.
Romney has always known and lived his liberal convictions, and his anti-conservative drive for revenge against the conservatives of the GOP, the Reagan/Palin/teaparty types who he shuns and insults even as he gains control of their party today.
Romney was anti-Reagan, he left the GOP and from 1989 to 1993 only gave money to, and fund raised for democrat candidates, he voted for Paul Tsongas in 1992, he was giving to and fund raising for Planned Parenthood in 1994.
His father had run against Reagan for the Presidency in 1968, Mitt Romney and his father formally protested the victory of the conservatives at the 1964 GOP convention in which Goldwater was nominated and Reagan gave his famous speech. Romney was anti-conservative in every way during the first 59 years of his life.
ROMNEYQUOTES
“Reagan was adamantly pro-choice”
“Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.”
“I’m not a partisan politician. My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses.”
“These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense,” Romney said. “They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”
“I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.”
Do you think that Mitt was just merely confused a little about his core “Reaganite” beliefs during the the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, and the 2000s, until 2006 at age 59 when he started his run for President, the second such run in a row for his family?
Thanks :). I will support Romney over Obama anyday. In my opinion Obama has been a massive failure.
JFK was the President that killed us.
With no JFK there would not have been a Kennedy empire or Johnson, or Vietnam, or the 1960s, it was the election which destroyed us.
“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”
You make a good point. Romney has messey record of flip-flops. But what better choice is there? We have been running deficits that are 10% of GDP for the past 4 years. Unemployment stubbornly above 8%. This is not sustainable in the long term. Obama must go.
Less trolling and insulting of Reagan would make it easier to accept your slavish devotion to the anti-Reagan failed Governor from Massachusetts, who announced that he would be seeking reelection but was driven out of office with a 34% approval rating and leaving behind a weakened and scarred state party and losing the Governor’s seat to the democrats after Republicans holding it for four Governors in a row.
Lets go on Democrat Underground, post outrageous things, just to get members fighting.....Hmmmm.... Wait a sec, they will probably just check our sign up date and realize that we are just trying to stir things up. Those sort of tactics only seem to work at...free republic.
Romney versus Reagan??
You mean Governor “Ronnie Raygun” as the left called what was already a right-wing icon, the right wing Governor of California, deeply hated by the left and loved by the right, unlike failed one term (34% approval) Gov Romney, the man who hated Reagan and was purely liberal, and anti-right?
You mean 8 years of military service 1937 enlistee, Captain Reagan, who by the second half of the 1940s was already starting to be seen as a communist fighting conservative, testifying to Congress and naming names, working with the FBI, having to carry a gun for self defense from the left, Reagan?
The last time Reagan voted Dem for President was 1948, for Romney it was 1992, By 1952 Reagan was campaigning for Republicans as a “Democrat for Eisenhower”, he kept using that anti-liberal, conservative campaigning slogan until 1962.
In 1952 Reagan was campaigning for Republicans like Eisenhower, who he campaigned for again in 1956, and then campaigned for Nixon against JFK in 1960, already having earned a reputation as an active speaker for conservatism for years.
The Reagan who formally registered Republican in 1962 and spoke at the Goldwater convention in 1964 (the one Mitt and dad George protested)?
Romney was already anti-Goldwater and anti-Reagan.
Reagan was famous for his conservatism before the Vietnam War, and the Great Society, Roe V Wade, the abortion wars, Jimmy Carter, decades of Cold War defeats, and the radical 1960s, before the Reagan Revolution and the Contract with America, and Clinton, and the Gore election of 2000, Mitt Romney would not even register Republican during the Reagan Presidency or vote for him. Romney, at almost age 60, had a stroke (or something) and suddenly, unexplainedly, became a totally different person around 2006, merely to run for national office.
Reagan and Romney have nothing in common.
Hemmer comes across as someone who is really in love with himself.
So why again did you compare Romney to Reagan?
Reagan was governor of a liberal state. He enacted some very liberal legislation (Therapeutic Abortion Act) as governor but later on he turned out to be a great president.
The same could be true for Romney.
“Mitt Romney will be the next Ronald Reagan.”
Meth is really messing you up...you need to quit. About the only thing they have in common is their last name starts with R.
Really, I can not afford to vomit any more today.
Do you actually know anything about California when Reagan was elected?
It was in 1967 that the California legislature passed The Therapeutic Abortion Act, Health and Safety Code. Governor Reagan signed it.
It was “sold” as a compassionate law that would be used to deal with the “hard cases.” This statute allowed the termination of pregnancy by a physician, in an accredited hospital, when there was a specific finding that there was a substantial risk that its continuation would “gravely impair the physical or mental health of the mother,” or when the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest. However, the law did provide that no termination of pregnancy could be approved after the 20th week of pregnancy.
Ronald Reagan did not write that legislation. It was sold to him as compassionate, and he signed it.
Reagan never provided for free or low cost - no questions asked - abortions.
There were 518 legal abortions in California in 1967. That number would soar to an annual average of 100,000 for the remaining years of Reagan’s two terms. The murder of 100,000 each year. Are you really going to try to defend that? Reagan was a great man but he made mistakes.
Your premise is flawed, and bent to represent Reagan as something he was not.
Reagan signed the bill as I stated and was mortified by the unintended consequences and became fierce supporter of the pro-life cause.
Unlike your candidate (Romney) who has always been pro-choice until a day or so ago, as demonstrated by his entire life and providing for free and low cost, no questions asked, abortions as governor.
Are you really going to continue to defend that?
I guess you skipped post 47 and didn’t retain post 41.
Governor Reagan was known has a hard right, radical right Governor, and was treated that way by the California press and the national press, Romney has never been known as a conservative, ever.
Reagan was genetically conservative, it showed in his youth, young adulthood, his military service, and his entry into political union leadership during the 1940s and his emergence onto the electoral political scene in 1952 forward.
Romney is the exact opposite, born liberal, raised liberal, lived liberal, politically liberal, he is genetically liberal and only rewrote his platform to run for president as a 60 year old politician.
Romney is known for liberal leadership on the national issues, he has merely done a political 180 for this single office. There has never been a republican this liberal in this position, this is history making.
Romney didn’t make a rookies mistake, he sold abortion and liberalism for 60 years.
Romney was doing all this after the 1960s, Vietnam, LBJ, the great society, Roe v Wade, Carter, the Reagan Revolution, the Cold War, the abortion wars, he was voting against Reagan, voting democrat in 1992, and fund raising for Planned parenthood, Romney was passionately promoting abortion and radical homosexual politics when George W was running for reelection and Romney was almost 60.
Reagan realized that abortion was disgusting and barbaric.
I think Romney can do the same.
I understand that you hope that Romney would change, it is not going to happen. Romney’s core is liberalism, his religion supports his beliefs, his entire life supports liberalism, there is zero reason for him to change into what you are projecting on him.
Conservatism is at the core of conservatives, that is not nor has it ever been Romney’s core.
It's funny that we are supposed to shout from the rooftops Romney's liberal record as governor of Massachusetts while conveniently ignoring Reagan's. Romney is accused of being pro-abortion. Reagan's signature legalized abortion in California long before Roe v. Wade legalized it in the rest of the country. Romney is accused of being the father of gay marriage. Reagan signed into law the nation's first "no-fault divorce" legislation, --a tool that has destroyed more families than gay marriage could ever hope to accomplish.
Yet Reagan went on to become as President the standard-bearer of conservatism. You suggest possibly Romney could do the same and people here scream preposterous!
I'm disliking Romney less and less watching him take the fight to Obama and "get in their faces". I have a good feeling that I'm going to find myself pleasantly surprised by Romney's presidency.
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