Posted on 04/28/2012 5:36:53 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
I posted this up in News/Activism because it is a call to activism, and therefore seemed to me to fit the bill.
This is a "caucus" thread - if you're a pro-Romney whiner, then go find another thread. This one is for conservatives who want to do something about the election besides hang our heads and timidly thump a tub for Mittens.
I've intended this thread to hang around for a while so that we can throw ideas back and forth and start trying to network, etc. If you're really interested in organizing for action, please feel free to join in. If you want to hang back and not get actively involved, well, feel free to join in or lurk too.
Thanks, Yashcheritsiy
Soros is going to win whether the occupant of the White House is Romney or Obama. It makes no difference to him.
There are an estimated 115 million TEA Party aligned citizens in the United States today.
Just by garnering 70% of that caucus would yield 80 million votes. That’s 11 million more than Obama received in 2008 and 21 million more than McCain received in 2008.
The TEA party network is already established and battle tested. We’re ready to roll.
To place a TEA Party Independent ticket of Sarah Palin for President and Rand Paul for Vice-President on the ballot in all 50 states in time for the November elections would require about 750,000 signatures from registered voters and about $8100 for ballot fees. Do you think the various TEA Party groups across America could execute on this action in time for the November general election?
You Betcha!
In the meantime, the strategy for Conservatives, TEA Partiers, and Libertarians should be to vote for Ron Paul in the remaining primaries. If one is truly brave, they could even sign up with their local Campaign for Liberty group.
Americans Elect has already secured ballot access for the November election in 25 states. The TEA Party should have no problem doing likewise.
The TEA Party should retain Richard Winger of Ballot Access News as a consultant. He is this country’s foremost expert on ballot access questions and issues. His contact info:
Richard Winger
P.O. Box 470296
San Francisco California 94147
richardwinger@yahoo.com
(415)922-9779 telephone
Romney is very weak in the South and cannot beat Obama in the critical states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, and Wisconsin. Obama won all of those states in 2008 and if he wins those states again, he is re-elected.
Check out Karl Rove’s electoral map and Larry Sabato’s electoral map. Romney loses even if he wins all of the toss-up states.
A TEA Party Independent ticket could toss the entire election into the House of Representatives just by winning one of the rust belt states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, or Wisconsin. Of course, Romney would have to hold the South but if he were to fail in that task, a TEA Party Independent ticket could pick up the slack and keep those states out of Obama’s column.
Obama is the weakest President running for re-election since Jimmy Carter and, instead of running a Ronald Reagan [Sarah Palin] against him, who does the ‘Stupid Party’ choose?
Alf Landon [Mitt Romney].
This is your wake-up call TEA Party; NOW GET TO WORK!
Definitely ~ the only chance to beat Obama is to drop Romney.
“Real conservatives” have had three long years and a months long primary season to come up with a viable candidate to lead the GOP in November 2012. They failed. No one who put his arse on the line was every quite good or conservative enough. Why would anyone think that some magical knight in shining armor is going to blaze onto the scene now? And who, pray tell, might that ideal candidate be?
Alf Landon is not a good model here, but Harold Stassen is.
Yep! Two entirely different demographics.
My ancestors also fought in that war and some died, will you call them murderers because we won the cause?
I’m sorry your ancestors suffered during the revolution, but war is war and hell on all involved. I can say I am happy the Patriots won the day and that we have this beautiful nation we call home. It is a shame that there are some that wish to see it destroyed.
I will carry on as my ancestors did and do all I can to remain a faithful Patriot.
The GOP-E has won every time at the nomination levels since 1928 except for 1964 and 1980. Liberal Republicans know they have always been "in charge," to borrow from the fairly conservative Al Haig.
Innovative - Not trying to be rude, but I think some folks would like to have a discussion without a bunch of interruptions.
That's not going to happen.
Romney supporters are retards - can't read - this is an ANTI-ROMNEY thread. We are talking solutions here, not discussing a love affair with a PRO HOMO LIBERAL.
In a sense, you're right - and maybe this will teach is a lesson. Shoot, I'd settle for the 80% friend right now, instead of the 5% "friend" that the GOP nominated.
Conservatives DID mess up in demanding absolute purity from the candidates - especially when nobody could agree on what absolute purity was anywise, therefore FR (and other places, I'd imagine) simply factionalised into a set of "my candidate or the highway" bickering. Now were stuck with a GOP candidate who really SHOULD get the highway treatment, but now we won't, because everybody's so durn afraid on Obama that they can't think straight to see their way out of the box they're in.
This was posted in the GOP forum. Romney will be the GOP nominee for President.
By "caucus thread" are you folks looking for a thread completely detached from reality? Some sort of happy fantasyland where Virgil Goode is going to select Sarah Palin as his running mate and crush Obama in a 520 electoral vote landslide?
Mitt Romney will be the Republican candidate for President. It sucks. Grow up and deal with it.
What planet do you live on? It sounds like a happy place! Are there rivers of beer flowing?
You always seem to bring up drugs when hit with truth. Think Whitney, it doesn’t end up well.
Your not going to be able to organize people to try to destroy the GOP. There are just way MORE movement conservatives and Tea Party folks working within the GOP (particular at the local and state level) to make it more conservative. Your idea isn't realistic and is actually working at cross purposes with many of your own allies.
A US political party implodes when it becomes immovable over some big issue(s) that massive numbers of voters give up on the party over. That is very, very unlikely to happen now or anytime in the foreseeable future. The Republican party platform will be fairly conservative (even though most of us on this forum don't believe or nominee really is at heart).
The 3rd party thing is a waste of time. You'd be far better off spending time explaining to people how to get involved in the Republican party at the local level in their town, city, state. If more conservative activists DID that rather than just TALK about dreams of a 3rd party, we'd be moving even faster towards pushing the GOP to the right. You'd be simply amazed how few people actually take the time to simply register and participate in local party meetings. All it takes is someone to grab some friends, show up, and just that alone can have a LOT of influence. Those are the basic things that need doing. It's fun to chit chat about the grand national level stuff, but that's not where the vast majority of people are ever really going to have an opportunity to make an impact.
Harold Stassen was never the Republican Party nominee for President.
Alf Landon was nominated by the Republican Party in 1936 and he couldn’t crack double digits in the electoral college.
In a three-way race with Obama and Sarah Palin, Romney finishes third.
Just like William Howard Taft couldn’t crack double digits in the electoral college for his Presidential re-election in 1912, Romney will suffer the same fate. Theodore Roosevelt, as a third-party candidate in 1912, won 88 electoral votes by winning the states of Washington, South Dakota, Minnesota, Michigan and New York.
No you're not. You're all pondering a bunch of "what if's" that aren't going to happen.
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