[CainConservative]

"I am willing stipulate that Newt IS a conservative"

Then, what's your REAL problem?

[PENANCE]

the type of "conservative" keeping the conservative vote "fractured" with ILLOGICAL ARGUMENTS based on BEGGING THE QUESTION

or, I should add, any other logical fallacy, such as APPEALS TO CONSEQUENCES, APPEALS TO FEAR, APPEALS TO POPULARITY etc., etc., etc.

Again, I am confronted with the fact that I am in the wrong place at the worst possible time. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.