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To: TBBT

First, anyone who thinks Michele is in this as a shill for Mitt is a moron.

Second, to say that a State Campaign Manager betraying her and a Campaign PAC betraying her is somehow HER fault and makes her somehow less worthy of support — is a moron.

Michele Bachmann isn’t perfect — NONE of the candidates are. But of them ALL, she and Rick Santorum are the ONLY TWO that come close to the ideals that most FReepers claim to hold to as “Conservatives.”

The MORE LIKELY reality is that there was something IN IT for this guy to betray Michele. I have an idea who’s behind it — and it ain’t Ron Paul. And ain’t it strange Mittens picks up this PAC’s support about the same time — and they won’t answer the phone to explain themselves? COINCIDENCE?! I think not.

Someone else said, “You really don’t get it, do you?” I get it. The Republican Establishment DOES NOT want a Conservative to win the Nomination. There are only TWO real Conservatives in the race. Michele will be forced out first — then Rick Santorum. Ron Paul cannot win the Republican nomination. The others can be either dealt with or controlled to varying degrees. But along the way, they have set traps (Virginia, anyone?) to cut down the field to JUST ONE inevitable, acceptable, ESTABLISHMENT Candidate.

There are variables, and it’s not the “perfect” plan for the establishment — but, they’ve given themselves the BEST shot at their man getting the nod. And if a totally unacceptable candidate DID somehow slip through — well, they would just sabotage him/her and give the White House to Obama for 4 more years. Hey — they’re ESTABLISHMENT, right? And they’ll still have Congress.... Oh well...

I GET IT, ALRIGHT. Does anyone else?


120 posted on 12/28/2011 8:32:36 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: patriot preacher

It’s easy to be a ‘pure’ candidate, when you will have no responsibility in implementing your promises. I see it all the time in elections. Weak candidates will use their pure platforms to club stronger candidates, in the hopes of gaining attention and newspaper headlines.

The stronger candidates, because they may have the responsibility of actually having to keep their promises tend to be less ‘pure’ for that reason.


127 posted on 12/28/2011 9:05:05 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: patriot preacher; All

Yes, I do. I agree with all that you said.

That’s why I will not vote for Mittens or Newt.

Republican party loyalists in all 50 states are morons who don’t understand that the Republican party selling out is just as much a reason for Americas’ rapidly approaching demise as the Democrat party machine.

Newt or Mitt will not be able to revive the economy very much. The reason is very simple: all their so-called plans and ideas are either socialist or 100% rigged to help large businesses and big capital, and they completely neglect fixing some key problems that prevent further success. If those key problems are fixed, prosperity will automatically follow. Those key problems took decades to create and will take decades to fix.

It appears that many grassroots conservatives do not know what conservative policies are, how and why they work and do not want them implemented in America. Instead, they submit to fear of losing an election and jump on the compromise bandwagon to allay their fears.

Apparently most morons need 4 more years of Obama, so I will probably be forced to vote for him in order to send my tiny little 1-vote message to the Republican party machine. When people say he is destroying America, I say America is in God’s hands. If the Lord is with us, who can stand against us ? If the Lord is against us, Newt or Mitt - or anyone as President - is not going to save us. It all starts and ends with God. It’s evident that Obama is against America. The Republican establishment - and this includes both Newt and Mitt - has not stood firmly enough, they compromise, they change politics with the wind. No one, therefore, is truly any sort of advocate for the Christian faith except a few who can’t gain much political traction. Before our finances are fixed, we will need a religious revival, one of true faith as described in Scripture.

The Feral government is involved WAY too much in the lives of people. Statism does not bring prosperity. Without prosperity there is no security. Without morality there can be no solid prosperity. Moral relativism is no morality at all; it changes with the shifting sands of politics and populism.

My vote is not for sale to some Republican that says he has all the answers and they are all about state-mandated healthcare, state-controlled mortgage markets, etc.

FR has quite a few posters who are so “in the tank” for candidates other than those who support true conservative principles that it is quite striking and disheartening. Of course, “social media” is so far advanced at this point that most people don’t realize that many forums and social media sites are haunted by paid employees and contractors for various corporations and groups. What one thinks is an “opinion” expression tool is many times a way for organizations to shape and change public opinion just as much as to allow for individuals to express their opinion. One only has to do a little web searching for this type of service, as if one was trying to purchase the service, to see all the consulting companies out there peddling very sophisticated wares that offer to sway public opinion.

I guess the only reliable advice for the reader is to take everything they read with a grain of salt, do their own research and think for themselves. I have no faith in unsaved men, I have faith in God.

IMHO.


133 posted on 12/29/2011 10:12:03 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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