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President Trump: What would he be like?
Enter Stage Right ^ | April 25, 2011 | Daniel M. Ryan

Posted on 04/24/2011 8:49:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Although he has not announced his candidacy, Donald Trump is being treated as if he had. In fact, he's already a serious contender for the Republican Party nomination and the Presidency itself if nominated. I'm under no illusions as to the difficulties Candidate Trump will face in the months ahead should he go through with it. Mr. Trump has already been exposed as a former liberal, and comparisons of him to Ronald Reagan (himself a former liberal) seem stretched. President Reagan first made his national mark as a conservative with "A Time For Choosing." That speech was made back in 1964. At the time he made it, he had been building up his conservative stand for about ten years.

Mr. Trump's Damascus conversion is recent. Consequently, it's easy to knock him as an opportunist: to say that he just smells votes and is adjusting his tune to get them. The kernel of truth in that claim ties in with his undoubted talent as an entrepreneur. Yes, Donald Trump shifted to a conservative stance and "Mr. Birther" as a businessman.

In a nutshell, for what it's worth, Mr. Trump has a success secret that's enabled him to make a huge amount of money in the luxury condo business. I don't know if he got it from his father, or whether he discovered it himself, but it goes something like this: "There's what people say they want, and there's what they really want. People are sometimes ashamed of what they really want, even though they shouldn't be. Find a way to break through the shame, and deliver what they really want, and you'll be rich." This success maxim is precisely what Mr. Trump effected with luxury condominiums. When he was starting out in high-end real estate, luxury condos and co-ops were old-fashioned-tasteful and understated. Rather than advertising or displaying the owners' wealth, they tended to hide it. Donald Trump built condos that showed wealth. He managed to break through the stigma of such condos being "slick" or "ostentatious." In so doing, he built and sold what his customers really wanted but ashamed to ask for explicitly.

He doing so took a difficult kind of daring: the art of being shameless without being tasteless. There are few entrepreneurs who can walk that tight-wire. One of them, ironically enough, is Hugh Hefner. Had Mr. Hefner been no more than Larry Flynt, he would have been drummed out of business by the law amidst the mocking sound of popular applause. Had Donald Trump gone gaudy, he would have been a late-'70s epiphenomenon like Studio 54; nothing more. By being tasteful, he avoided that fate and stayed on the wire.

With regard to his championing the birther issue, Mr. Trump is indeed up to his old tricks. He managed to discern a lot of underground support for the issue that didn't die. He also saw the stigma attached to people like Orly Taitz who shouldered the burden of pursuing what the mainstream media dismissed as a patent falsehood. He saw the consequent opportunity in the birther controversy, and he took it. As a result, he's now a serious contender for the Presidency.

Not just because of his pro-birther stance; far from it. His championing of protective tariffs on goods imported from mainland China shows the same flair. Give 'em what they really want, but don't dirty your hands while doing so; make sure your hands and your brand stay clean. With respect to Chinese trade policy, he's using the currency-manipulation claim to stay clean.

President Businessman

Mr. Trump, of course, has other business talents more easily noticed. He and his many supporters hold them up as strengths. One obvious trait is his toughness. I'm sure he sized up the mainland Chinese rulership as people who'll bend if they're confronted firmly and toughly.

Another is his outspokenness; for it, he's held up as brave. In fact, his populist frankness is precisely the root of his populist popularity. Again, he smells his kind of opportunity: people widely dislike mainstream politicians, but vote for them anyway. They do so because of the stigma attached to voting for people who don't live up to the Washington standard of professionalism. Witness the fate of Sarah Palin.

On the darker side of his success traits, there's his opportunism with regard to legalities. His companies have been no strangers to Chapter 11 and the bankruptcy courts. He has tried to use eminent domain to push out a recalcitrant landowner when he wanted to put a new parking lot beside one of his casinos.

That side to him is ancillary as a businessman, as it's subordinate to giving his customers what they really want. He can point to a product, like a casino, a golf course or a stunning building full of luxurious condominiums, that makes it all worthwhile. The trouble is, that side is not ancillary to a President. The main job of the President of the United States is to head up the executive branch of the United States government. Observing legalities is at the heart of the job.

I'm sure Mr. Trump sees it as being the nation's CEO. It actually isn't, because Congress makes the laws, but someone of his calibre will be tempted to see Congress as his subordinates. Given his thin-skinedness, President Trump would likely engage in at least one feud with Congress: the most probable co-feuder would be the Democrat who most jealously guards the legislative branch's rights. Should Mr. Trump become President, watch for filibusters of the legislation he sends over. More to the point, watch for him using grey areas of the Constitution to his advantage. He will not be a strict constructionist. In the business world, a strict constructionist is a cost-plus Quaker type who had little taste for negotiating.

In foreign policy, his thin skin is likely to be his undoing. Negotiations revolve around stances, which are modified if need be as the negotiation continues. In the world of government, this practice translates into "his word's no good" or "he's blustering." Cagey diplomats and shrewd foreign ministers will treat his demands and pronouncements as little more than negotiating ploys or venting. It's almost a certainly that the high officials of the People's Republic of China will treat his tariff policy as a chip on the bargaining table, at most. Needless to say, it has to get though Congress first.

His nationalistic talk about Middle East oil will be treated in two ways. When the chips are down, the only way to enforce his "oil for the Americans" stance is all-out war. Publicly, he and Americans will be excoriated as imperialists and warmongers. Privately, he'll be sized up as a blusterer. He'll find out quickly that a sovereign Middle East government is not the same thing as a municipality. When heads of foreign governments refer to "mere businessmen," they mean it.

He'll likely be baited on the world stage. Foreigners doing so would be good for his popularity with the voters, and it would generate patriotic feuds, but it won't lead to much done unless he plays by the rules. He'll be sized up as George Bush without the humility.

Unless he does an about-face and becomes another Washington insider, it's unlikely he'll accomplish anything of significance in the foreign-policy arena - unless he decides to press more Yankee tax dollars into foreign hands. He'll have to bend on his more nationalistic goals unless he goes unilateralist. The President of the United States has no standing in foreign governance. It's not that hard for a foreign minister or head of government to say: "then 'we' won't be doing anything at all" and sticking to it. Instead of the tough negotiators Mr. Trump expects to face, he'll face the foreign answer to tough judges. A lot of the tricks used by the striped-pants boys take that lack of standing into account and work around it.

He may succeed in getting some of his domestic plan though Congress even though his techniques don't work on the suspicious, cagey and independent-minded. His tariff plan will not be one of those successes. He putting it to Congress will reveal how many Yankee dollars are coined with cheap Chinese goods, and how many Yankee jobs currently depend on "China Inc." doing its thing. It's too easy for free traders to run an ad that says: "Donald Trump To Wal-Mart Employees: 'You're Fired.'"

Any attempt on his part to slash government spending, or to abolish the Department of Education, will reveal how many Yankee vested interests in government spending there are. Again, there'll be lots of opportunity for him to show his populism with headline-grabbing speeches and feuds. The wheels of publicity will turn 'round and 'round for him; that's for sure. But, given his character and how his weak points will be used, it's not likely that his publicity genius will translate into much of substance. Unless, of course, he bends with the Washington wind and becomes another insider.

Sad to say, the political world – more so the geopolitical world - has a completely different standard of toughness; it's one that Mr. Trump has never faced. At its core, whether rightly or wrongly, is disdain for money. Only that disdain gave President Roosevelt, whether rightly or wrongly, the toughness to lambaste "the malefactors of great wealth."


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To: Rudder

“Who do you plan to support, a winner or a strict ideologue”

A conservative and a winner the two are not mutually exclusive..


21 posted on 04/24/2011 9:13:44 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
>>>>>>If he’s a liberal, we’ll figure it out.

Conservatives figured out Trump was a liberal long ago. In fact, Trump's liberal record is only slightly less liberal than Obama's.

Btw, the attacks on Trump will continue as long as you yahoos feed his cult ego.

22 posted on 04/24/2011 9:18:56 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Rudder

who do you think?


23 posted on 04/24/2011 9:19:42 PM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm listening.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I mean, I could be distracted pretty easily to defend someone else - if anyone else were actually speaking up...

Oh they're speaking up, just not loud enough to make anyone mad at them.

24 posted on 04/24/2011 9:22:46 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He would have to be a darling of the drunken college student left, since conservatives won’t vote for him and the republicans would need a replacement for the conservative vote to have any shot in that case.


25 posted on 04/24/2011 9:24:34 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ltc8k6
Obama "Zero" never signed a paycheck. Trump has.

Note recently how Obama is bringing up his employment history [considering we never knew much about what his accomplishments were] in such phrases as "I taught Constitutional Law for 10 Years!" ... has his students ever come forward and said: "Obama was my professor? I remember him well."

If Republicans can't win come next election with all the broken promises under Obama, especially the list of "changes" he promised in his campaign to his faithful Left, if gas prices stay high, if no one buys the electric cars but "buddy" GE, if the housing market remains in a slump, unemployment stays high, we remain dependent on foreign oil etc --then it will be utterly embarrassing, should Republicans lose.

Business in America is fixing business, despite whatever threatening voice comes out of this administration, so the uptick on Wall Street is all about business swimming against the tide and making the best out of a worse case scenario.

Trump at least knows business. Personal failures made Trump bounce back stronger and stronger each time. He doesn't make excuses. Trump doesn't cower to anyone--he doesn't play Mr. Sensitive like Obama or even Huckabee's bugger bear/progressive complaining. Obama ran on image, no substance and won. Trump definitely has image and he did not get to where he is today on lack of substance. Trump grew up in the school of hard knocks, not teaching constitution law at an ivy league college for 10 years. You got any better candidate--yes the left is laughing, but sweating like water buffaloes and hoping Mrs. Clinton is waiting in the wings to pull off some kind of miracle.

26 posted on 04/24/2011 9:25:03 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"His tariff plan will not be one of those successes. He putting it to Congress will reveal how many Yankee dollars are coined with cheap Chinese goods, and how many Yankee jobs currently depend on "China Inc." doing its thing. It's too easy for free traders to run an ad that says: "Donald Trump To Wal-Mart Employees: 'You're Fired.'"

Any attempt on his part to slash government spending, or to abolish the Department of Education, will reveal how many Yankee vested interests in government spending there are."

It's a little too late for those arguments. Both of those constituencies will be largely unemployed before he gets into office. There will be more arguments to repudiate the debt by then.

China should cap forex reserves at 1.3 trillion U.S. dollars: China banker
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2709919/posts


27 posted on 04/24/2011 9:25:21 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Reagan Man

Well I’m just of the opinion, that unless and until someone (anyone) from our side competes with Trump in the numerous very good positions he’s taking now...

What’s the point of criticizing him for those?

Would it not make more sense for real conservatives (from your view, it would seem) to say those things? I mean how weird is it, that the only Republican actually getting in Obama’s face is allegedly a liberal?

(and a pretty remarkable Capitalist, it might be noted)


28 posted on 04/24/2011 9:26:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: montanajoe
A conservative and a winner the two are not mutually exclusive..

Very true...Name 2-3 who fill that bill.

29 posted on 04/24/2011 9:26:27 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
His nationalistic talk about Middle East oil will be treated in two ways. When the chips are down, the only way to enforce his "oil for the Americans" stance is all-out war.

I don't believe this. All the U.S. has to say to the Arabs is that if they don't stabilize the price of oil at a reasonable level, we will no longer defend or protect their oil fields or their countries. I'm convinced we would see a new attitude and downward movement in the price of oil.

30 posted on 04/24/2011 9:26:40 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Totally agree. I’d actually love to see him smoke Obama in the election. The only person I’d like to see beat him more would be Sarah Palin.

Palin/Trump

Trump/Palin

2012.


31 posted on 04/24/2011 9:28:09 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: RC one

I favor Palin, Trump and Bachmann (in that order).


32 posted on 04/24/2011 9:28:51 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Prokopton

Yep. We’re the only thing keeping the “Arab Street” from the sheik’s throats.


33 posted on 04/24/2011 9:30:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education. TR)
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To: Prokopton
I don't believe this. All the U.S. has to say to the Arabs is that if they don't stabilize the price of oil at a reasonable level, we will no longer defend or protect their oil fields or their countries. I'm convinced we would see a new attitude and downward movement in the price of oil.

Right On!

34 posted on 04/24/2011 9:33:03 PM PDT by Digger ((If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yep. We’re the only thing keeping the “Arab Street” from the sheik’s throats.

And the Iranians from the Saudi's throat.

35 posted on 04/24/2011 9:33:46 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Rudder

At this point absolutely a strict ideologue.

An economic collapse would bring about civil war and I want everyone continuing to destroy the country to be obviously tied to liberalism if things go to crap.

In addition, the high unemployment and hard times in general are bringing people to Christ in my region, and even a lot of the tiny churches are building. That has a far greater importance in the long run than the political football.

One more thing.

If you won’t adamantly support only candidates that are purposed to end chopping up babies in the womb...I am more tha okay with that decision causing you to lose everything you have and could.ever work for.


36 posted on 04/24/2011 9:33:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Prokopton

And don’t they know it.


37 posted on 04/24/2011 9:37:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education. TR)
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To: Prokopton
Oh they're speaking up, just not loud enough to make anyone mad at them.

Nonsense.

Palin, Bachmann and West were speaking up against Obama long before Trump did. In fact they were speaking up against Obama and the Democrats, including Reid, Weiner, Emanual...while Trump was busy funding them.

38 posted on 04/24/2011 9:38:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He would likely be the same kind of political weather vane he has been the last few years. Trump is likely the one GOP candidate who would suck up to the MSM more than McCain.

A Trump nomination would mean the MSMediots had picked the GOP nominee for two straight elections.


39 posted on 04/24/2011 9:40:44 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: Prokopton

“I don’t believe this. All the U.S. has to say to the Arabs is that if they don’t stabilize the price of oil at a reasonable level, we will no longer defend or protect their oil fields or their countries. I’m convinced we would see a new attitude and downward movement in the price of oil. “

I totally agree. The only thing that stands between the House of Saud and disaster is the USA. If the President told them that unless they cut us a deal on oil don’t bother to dial 911 next time they get in trouble I have a feeling things would change.

The Chinese worst nightmare is that we will call them out on the manipulation of their currency which they have been doing at will for years.


40 posted on 04/24/2011 9:41:46 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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