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To: tueffelhunden
tueffelhunden
Since Feb 6, 2008



2 posted on 05/12/2008 6:49:16 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: PA Engineer

Cute. There are several more people that have been here longer, a lot longer than I that are not voting for that backstabbing POS with an “R” after his name.


3 posted on 05/12/2008 6:51:43 PM PDT by Grunthor (Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
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To: PA Engineer

Why don’t you check my sign-up date.

I agree with him completely.


33 posted on 05/12/2008 9:19:20 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: PA Engineer
Will you also call me a troll since I won't vote for McCain? How about Jim Rob? Good luck with that, n00b.
50 posted on 05/12/2008 9:45:04 PM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: PA Engineer

tueffelhunden
Since Feb 6, 2008

You may be on to something about this individual signing up to mislead misguided FReepers into throwing the election to Obama.

Obama the most dangerous man in America, bar none.

Obama is a trained agent of Saul Alinsky and his group of Marxists sewer rats.

Obama admits being a community organizer he just forgets to tell you that he organized for a communist organization.

From the Internet:
ITV
Few know it today, but Chicago was the birthplace of a powerful grassroots social movement that changed political activism in this country. “Community Organizing” was pioneered in Chicago’s old stockyards neighborhood by the soberly realistic, unabashedly radical Saul Alinsky.

Alinsky’s hard-nosed politics were shaped by the rough and tumble world of late 1930’s Chicago.

http://www.fraw.org.uk/library/002/anarchism/alinsky_radical.html

Saul Alinski wrote the book on American radicalism - two books, in fact - a 1945 best-seller, “Reveille for Radicals” and “Rules for Radicals” in 1971.
SNIP
Alinski, the master political agitator, tactical planner and social organizer didn’t mince words ...
“Liberals in their meetings utter bold works; they strut, grimace belligerently, and then issue a weasel-worded statement ‘which has tremendous implications, if read between the lines.’ They sit calmly, dispassionately, studying the issue; judging both sides; they sit and still sit.

The Radical does not sit frozen by cold objectivity. He sees injustice and strikes at it with hot passion. He is a man of decision and action. There is a saying that the Liberal is one who walks out of the room when the argument turns into a fight.

Society has good reason to fear the Radical. Every shaking advance of mankind toward equality and justice has come from the Radical. He hits, he hurts, he is dangerous. Conservative interests know that while Liberals are most adept at breaking their own necks with their tongues, Radicals are most adept at breaking the necks of Conservatives.

Radicals precipitate the social crisis by action - by using power. Liberals may then timidly follow along or else, as in most cases, be swept forward along the course set by Radicals, but all because of forces unloosed by Radical action. They are forced to positive action only in spite of their desires ...
The American Radical will fight privilege and power whether it be inherited or acquired by any small group, whether it be political or financial or organized creed.
He curses a caste system which he recognizes despite all patriotic denials.
He will fight conservatives whether they are business or labor leaders.
He will fight any concentration of power hostile to a broad, popular democracy, whether he finds it in financial circles or in politics.
The Radical recognizes that constant dissension and conflict is and has been the fire under the boiler of democracy. He firmly believes in that brave saying of a brave people, “Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!”
The Radical may resort to the sword but when he does he is not filled with hatred against those individuals whom he attacks. He hates these individuals not as persons but as symbols representing ideas or interests which he believes to be inimical to the welfare of the people.

That is the reason why Radicals, although frequently embarking upon revolutions, have rarely resorted to personal terrorism.”

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,904228-2,00.html
Monday, Mar. 02, 1970

“The only place you really have consensus is where you have totalitarianism,” he says, as he organizes conflict as the only route to true progress. Like Machiavelli, whom he has studied and admires, Alinsky teaches how power may be used.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1097651/posts
Saul Alinsky and DNC Corruption
skynews.com ^ | 1.7.03 | Diane Alden

Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 5:06:35 PM by hope
Saul Alinsky and DNC Corruption
Diane Alden
Jan. 7, 2003


Saul Alinsky died in 1972. He was a Marxist grassroots organizer who spent much of his life organizing rent strikes and protesting conditions of the poor in Chicago in the 1930s. However, unlike Christian socialist and activist for the poor Dorothy Day, Alinsky’s real claim to fame was as strategist for anti-establishment ‘60s radicals and revolutionaries.

Indeed, Alinsky wrote the rule book for ‘60s radicals like Bill and Hillary Clinton, George Miller and Nancy Pelosi. He considered Hillary Rodham to be one of his better students and asked her to join him in his efforts as an organizer of radical leftist causes. But Hillary had other fish to fry on her climb to national prominence.

Alinsky had a true genius for formulating tactical battle plans for the radical left. He wrote two books outlining his organizational principles and strategies: “Reveille for Radicals” (1946) and “Rules for Radicals” (1971).

“Rules for Radicals” begins with an unusual tribute: “From all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins – or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom – Lucifer.”

The devil challenged authority and got his own kingdom, and that goes to the heart of what left is really about. That of course is to get power any way you can, including lying, cheating and stealing. The ultimate rule is that the ends justify the means.

COMMENT;

Obama is a true believer in “THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS”

As I said Obama is a dangerous person to be intrusting as POTUS.


73 posted on 05/12/2008 10:41:12 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: PA Engineer

Thank you very much, that’s a far better picture than the ones my Marines used to draw of me :D


166 posted on 05/13/2008 12:58:26 PM PDT by tueffelhunden
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