Wow, you’re willing to go to war over a plane being shot down. That’s great that you’re willing to expend many young lives over one incident. If you were the POTUS we would be at war every five years or so. Lets see, I guess we should have invaded Libya when Gohdaffi bombed the plane over Lockerbee and when Gary Powers got captured we should have gone to war with Russia and when the Mayaguez Incident happened we should have went to war with Cambodia. I support us going to war when its in our national interests. In fact, I have fought in combat when its in our national interests and when it wasn’t. However, we got all of the Navy personnel back in that crisis without going to war. When we can avert a war, it is a good thing. Since you appear to be so bloodthirsty I was just wondering if you served in combat?
“You missed the “hypocrite” part. Forming the Navy and making the Louisiana Purchase (two acts that I agree with) were acts of hypocrisy since he spent the whole time of the Washington presidency railing against George Washington for smaller acts.”
You know, that’s called politics. Deal with it.
“No wonder you’re so screwed up in your discernment. It takes good people to have good government...you can’t separate the two.”
So let me get this straight. If you rewrite the Old Testament you are a bad person? So if someone steps on your religious sensibilities they are a bad person? Just to let you know, you don’t have to be a Christian who attends church every Sunday to be a good person.
“So you have no problem with the Germans sinking American ships.”
I assume that you are talking about the Lisutania? Did you know that:
1. It was a British ship.
2. It sailed into a war zone in which the Germans declared all ships would be targets of warfare.
3. The British Navy was blockading Germany.
4. The German Embassy tried to buy adds in newspapers all across America warning the Americans that these ships were subject to sinking going into a war zone. Our government pressured many newspapers not to print this advertisement. It only got out in one newspaper. (Desmoine Register)
5. The German embassy posted signs at the pier leading up to the Lisutania that it was subject to sinking and warning American citizens not to travel on it.
6. The American and British government were secretly storing munitions on these ocean liners and it is believed that the Lisutania did indeed have munitions stored on it.
We know that Wilson wanted in the worst way to get into the war but political pressure forced him to stay out of it. What better thing than to have it look as though Germany was attacking America making them look like the bad guy. This incident was so similar to the U.S.S. Main exploding to set off the Spainish American war it’s sickening. Germany did not want America to enter the war.
Again, look at the consequences of us getting involved in a European war that had nothing to do with our National interests. We had to get invovled in another one 20 years later that was far more terrible.
“No, people like you have fractured the conservative base. You’re doing it again on this thread”
So because I’m consistent with conservative philosophy I’m the one fracturing the base, not the ones who are attacking the first amendment and adhering to liberal ideas like climate change? You sound like all of these conservative leaders who are going after the radio talk show hosts.
You have reading comprehension difficulties. I said send in the fleet, then it's up to them if they would have wanted war.
That’s great that you’re willing to expend many young lives over one incident. If you were the POTUS we would be at war every five years or so.
Wars and rumors of wars will carry on until the end. No use being naive about it.
Lets see, I guess we should have invaded Libya when Gohdaffi bombed the plane over Lockerbee...
We certainly should have killed Khadaffy through airstikes.
...and when Gary Powers got captured we should have gone to war with Russia...
Again, you have reading comprehension difficulties. That wasn't over international airspace as I said.
and when the Mayaguez Incident happened we should have went to war with Cambodia.
There should be military action when there is military action against us...whether that is full-scale war is up to the initial aggressor.
I support us going to war when its in our national interests. In fact, I have fought in combat when its in our national interests and when it wasn’t. However, we got all of the Navy personnel back in that crisis without going to war. When we can avert a war, it is a good thing.
War shouldn't be avoided by an apology tour when there was nothing for us to apologize over.
Since you appear to be so bloodthirsty I was just wondering if you served in combat?
Nope, 80s graduate. So if a country conducts a military operation against us, we should not take military action unless the president and vice president served in combat? How is it you support the war on terrorism...Bush and Cheney never served in combat? How is it you support any military action Reagan partook in? Reagan never served in combat.
You know, that’s called politics. Deal with it.
Ha! So if it's one of your heros like Jefferson it's politics, but if it's Bush having to do what he does with CFR and AWB because of politics, then he's one of the worst. You're Mr Double Standard, aren't you.
So let me get this straight. If you rewrite the Old Testament you are a bad person?
Certainly not fit for office.
So if someone steps on your religious sensibilities they are a bad person?
If it's ignorance, no. If it's outright rebellion as Jefferson did, then that's another story.
Just to let you know, you don’t have to be a Christian who attends church every Sunday to be a good person.
I've never been to church a Sunday in my life, that's not the issue. The issue is outright rebellion against the written Word.
I assume that you are talking about the Lisutania? Did you know that: 1. It was a British ship. 2. It sailed into a war zone in which the Germans declared all ships would be targets of warfare. 3. The British Navy was blockading Germany. 4. The German Embassy tried to buy adds in newspapers all across America warning the Americans that these ships were subject to sinking going into a war zone. Our government pressured many newspapers not to print this advertisement. It only got out in one newspaper. (Desmoine Register) 5. The German embassy posted signs at the pier leading up to the Lisutania that it was subject to sinking and warning American citizens not to travel on it. 6. The American and British government were secretly storing munitions on these ocean liners and it is believed that the Lisutania did indeed have munitions stored on it. We know that Wilson wanted in the worst way to get into the war but political pressure forced him to stay out of it. What better thing than to have it look as though Germany was attacking America making them look like the bad guy. This incident was so similar to the U.S.S. Main exploding to set off the Spainish American war it’s sickening. Germany did not want America to enter the war. Again, look at the consequences of us getting involved in a European war that had nothing to do with our National interests. We had to get invovled in another one 20 years later that was far more terrible..
Nice history lesson, but I'm talking merchant shipping sunk by the Germans before we entered the war. Those are acts of war. What's a few sailors, eh?
So because I’m consistent with conservative philosophy I’m the one fracturing the base, not the ones who are attacking the first amendment...
In your own words: "Politics...deal with it".
...and adhering to liberal ideas like climate change?
Bush has resisted Gorebull warming tremendously.
You sound like all of these conservative leaders who are going after the radio talk show hosts.
Um...in case you forgot, this thread is about McCain and my posts here are about me not voting for him, that's what started this argument between you, Terpfen, and I. I'm with Rush and the others on this and voting Constitution Party if their candidate isn't too kooky.
You keep blaming Bush for fracturing the base, here's a couple of test questions to see if you can pass: Am I a conservative? Is Bush a conservative?