Bumped for Truth.
This is round 3 in the electability/inevitability myth for this election season. Round 1: TootyFruityRudy. Round 2: Fred. Round 3: McCainiack. Just insert the latest “inevitable” candidate into the argument. We’ve all heard it before.
I suppose the article makes a good case that McCain may be unelectable in the General but what about the Primaries?
Put me in the camp as one of those who takes what the polls are saying about November with a grain of salt. A lot can happen in 9 months. If McCain keeps sounding the way he did Wednesday, he’ll be convincing people he should be retiring, not running for president.
Even if we do hold our noses and not go as far as Coulter in [campaigning] for the Democratic candidate, McCain will still have some problems because many conservatives will sit out and the ones who do ultimately vote for McCain have vowed to refuse to donate money to him.
This is the absolute best McCain will get from many of us and that is if he is lucky. McCain has never been the man for the presidency and absolutely has never been the man to be the nominee for said position for the Republican party. I will not vote for him in the general. No convincing otherwise will be persuasive and absolutely no money and no support to getting him elected will be forthcoming.
My vote will be for Mitt Romney on Tuesday as I believe and always have that he is the man for the job and directly up against Hillary or Obama this will become apparent as we go into November to the American people.
McCain is a dangerous joke and I am not laughing.
-—It is no secret that the New York times is anti-war, why would they endorse an apparent war-monger like McCain. The Times was so against the war and came out even stronger against the surge. It is ironic that they were so willing to give their stamp of approval.-—
Odd indeed.
Mark my words. The Dims can hardly wait to “swiftboat” John McCain. This will be their favorite part of the election.
I wish there were more candidates to choose from. In a country of 300,000,000 we should have a 10 or 20 that can led us better thant the current crop! They all want to give us up to the globalists and open borders crowd.
Let us look at McCain’s conservative credentials:
-IMMIGRATION: he wrote the bill granting amnesty to illegal immigrants (co-sponsored by Ted Kennedy)
-SOCIAL SECURITY: he voted to give your social security money to illegal immigrants
-TAXES: he voted against the Bush tax cuts multiple times (he has since flip-flopped and has campaigned as a lifelong tax-cutter)
-RHETORIC: he routinely engages in Democratic class warfare against big companies in America, particularly the “evil” drug companies who research cures to debilitating diseases for a profit
-ECONOMY: as recently as December 2007 he admitted “he does not know the economy very well” and needed to get better at it
-1ST AMENDMENT: he wrote the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill that was declared to be an unconstitutional infringement of the 1st Amendment (co-sponsored by ultra-liberal Democrat Russ Feingold)
-2ND AMENDMENT: he was called the “worst 2nd amendment candidate” by the president of the NRA
-ENERGY TAX: wrote a bill (co-sponsored by his buddy Lieberman) imposing a massive tax on energy which, according to the Department of Energy, would drastically raise the price of gasoline and put 300,000 Americans out of work
-GLOBAL WARMING: supports radical global warming legislation which involved him voting with every Democrat; think only America is responsible to take action, not other superpowers
-JUDGES: he joined forces with Democrats (Gang of 14) to block the Senate Republican’s attempt to confirm conservative, strict constructionist judges; also said Alito was too conservative for his liking
-WAR ON TERROR: fought with Hillary Clinton to demand that terrorists be given a full American trial
-GAY MARRIAGE: he joined liberals to fight against a federal marriage amendment supporting the institution of traditional marriage
-CHRISTIANS: campaigning in 2000, he famously described Christian leaders as “agents of intolerance”
-PRO-LIFE: he filed an amicus brief against pro-life advocates in Wisconsin
-BI-PARTISANSHIP: he met with leading Democrats in 2004 to discuss the possibility of being John Kerry’s Vice-President; publicly considered leaving the Republican Party in 2001 after he lost the primary
-PROFESSIONAL ETHICS: ringleader of the infamous Keating 5 ethical scandal which cost US tax payers $160 billion (Google it)
-PERSONAL ETHICS: McCain cheated on his first wife after she had a severe accident that left her partially disabled. He then divorced her and married his multi-millionaire mistress, whose daddy bought McCain a spot in the Congress
So far as I can tell, that's true.
If I were voting in an opposition party’s primary as an “Independent” I would tell them everything that I thought a true Republican or Conservative would want to hear to skew the numbers in a way that makes that candidate to appear to have the best stance on all issues important to the party’s members. I would even vote in the opposition primary if I was satisfied with either candidate for my party and knew a vote for McCain would be like a vote for Hillary or Obama.
It sounds like you're assuming that convinced Democrats or liberals wouldn't have voted in the Democrat primary. That may have been true in some states where there was no real Democratic primary, but probably not in New Hampshire.
A lot of politically passionate people assume everyone is in one politically committed camp or the other. In fact, most independent voters are somewhere in the middle. They aren't operatives for the other side.
Perhaps the reason why the pollsters were so wrong about Barack Obama’s inevitable victory in New Hampshire was because many moderates that will vote either Obama or Hillary in the general election switched over to vote for McCain knowing that true conservatives and core Republicans would support him, thus splintering the party and greatly increasing the chances of a Democratic victory this Fall.
But aren't you also saying that true conservatives won't support McCain? Don't those two arguments conflict?
McCain could well turn out to be a real bust, but I don't know if we can safely assume that his people wouldn't be able to use Clinton's or Obama's negatives against them with swing voters.
McCain-Feingold, McCain’s own anti-free speech legislation may become McCain’s biggest barrier to electability by eliminating the soft-money that he could have raised through his friends Arnold and Rudy and other like minded moderates.
That could be true. If McCain doesn't get broad based support from conservative donors he may regret not having large contributions from wealthy contributors. But throw off all limits and you might be surprised at the results: the Democrats have a lot of ultra-rich donors who would love to give even more than they can under current laws.
I don’t think McCain cares. He just wants the nomination. I think it is a vindeta. He hates conservates and as much as Huckabee is working to get him the nominee, McCain is working to get Hillary or Obama the presidency.
That post is on point...but here’s McCain’s strategy: pull in independents and others to win open primaries. He’s then counting on the anti-hillary vote in the general and will count on drawing in folks like me. I find McCain to be intellectually dishonest, personally corrupted by a quest for power, a personification of forces who can’t stand our constitution, and charlatan. But, as a conservative who finds roe v wade to be perhaps the most repugnant decision in our history and holds the liberal members of the supremes in contempt (of court :)) what will i be left with. I must in conscience vote against the abortionists. This is a miserable situation and McCain is anathema to conservatives.