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To: PhiKapMom
Now you know why I support Rudy.

First, electing the most pro-abortion Republican candidate in history to the highest office could never be considered pro-life. Giuliani has openly stated that he's against overturning Roe v. Wade and we're only one judge away from that. It is critical that we get a pro-life President into office for that very reason. Giuliani is more pro-abortion than most Democrats.

There are other viable candidates who can be counted on to appoint a justice that will overturn Roe v. Wade. Then, at least, some states can outlaw abortion on demand and we'll finally make progress in saving the children. We're this close and we're not going to get there by trying to put Giuliani into office.

The gamble it far to big. If Giuliani is elected in the Primary, he will not likely win the General. He will split the Republican vote because, no matter how much it angers you, conservative Republicans will stay home in droves. His views on nearly every issue are profoundly offensive to those core conservatives who learn just where he stands. The baggage he's got from his term as Mayor, and I've touched on some of it here, will turn Democrats and Independents away as each scandal is broadcast by the Democrats. He will not be able to stand on any principles or points because they'll be able to point to questionable things that he did, or that happened, while he was mayor and turn his supposed strengths into liabilities. He won't be able to run on his "great" record as mayor if he has to also keep running away from that same record.

I know that the War on Terror - the war against islamofascism is a top priority to you. But I will tell you that there is nothing that the islamofascists are doing or will do to us that is any more heinous or barbaric than what we in America do to 1,300 children every day. There is nothing that happened under Saddam Hussein in Iraq that greatly exceeds what happened right there in your hospital room and elsewhere around our own country as we LEGALLY murder children every day through partial birth abortion.

I don't see how anyone can oppose the barbarism of the islamofascists while condoning or even supporting the barbarism committed legally within our own country. The culture war sees far more death and destruction than the war on terror. The culture of hedonism and death has already claimed 45,000,000 children since 1973 when our own country's highest court exceeded its constitutional bounds and restricted the states from stopping the slaughter within their own borders. The butchers are now protected by our own government and no one is allowed to stand in the way of the slaughter they engage in.

Groups like NARAL openly support the unfettered continuation of this slaughter. Giuliani is a "champion" to NARAL, has received awards from them, has praised them, and has even publically stated that he believes that the bloody slaughter is a VALUE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. The very Party that you've spent years supporting. He wants to hijack the party with his pro-death philosophy. I know you read his own words that I posted in a recent thread. He wants to do that to the Republican Party and the nation itself. And then, the kind of thing that happened right there in your hospital room will happen even more often and neither party will be there to stand up for the unborn.

Whether Rudy wins or Hillary wins, the pro-life movement will be set back incredibly. But if Rudy wins, the Republican Party will have sold its soul and will no longer be a pro-life party. Reagan's pro-life legacy will have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency to elect the "easiest" candidate with an R after his name. There will be no major party left to stand in the gap and fight the abortionists and protect life. If Hillary wins, we'll have all the setbacks to the pro-life effort that we'd have under Rudy, but at least the Republican Party's integrity on the pro-life issue would still be intact. At least there'd be some hope for 2012 or later to take back the White House and the Congress and try to undo some of the damage. But if the Republican Party doesn't even survive, or it abandons its pro-life effort, then there will be little hope for the pro-life movement.

583 posted on 01/28/2007 10:32:35 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
No, if Rudy wins and beats Hillary or Obama or Edwards or Gore, or whomever the Dem candidates is, we, ALL of us on FR and out there, in the nation and all over the world........... WE WIN!

The GOP is NOT destroyed and neither is this nation!

And guess what? You are NOT the "voice of the nation" or even "the voice of Conservatism"; not by a long shot!

Abortion is the law of the land. The president isn't the one who makes our laws and the sooner you learn that, the better off you will be!

Rudy wants abortion to go back to being a venue of the states. Why do you have a problem with that?

590 posted on 01/28/2007 10:39:09 PM PST by nopardons
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