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To: muawiyah
The USSC has subsequently ruled the Oneida were entitled to their own land in New York.

The Supreme Court ALSO ruled that Oneidas had to collect and remit sales tax on sales made to non-Indians. So if you're going to argue that we have to abide by the SCOTUS rulings then the tribes have to pay the tax.

But thanks for making my point: the tribal leaders, a corrupt group that rivals the Mafia for ruthlessness and audacity, have no problem hiding behind the SCOTUS and "white man's law" when it suits their purposes. But as soon as it doesn't, they claim sovereignty and ignore the law, or even riot.

And the State of New York, desperate to be "politically correct," doesn't do a thing about it.

8 posted on 09/21/2003 6:04:05 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
100% correct. Tribes have achieved a position where they abuse our system and defy taxation. With the help of their Democrat lawyers. Check out the casino deals and it's nearly always connected Democrat lawyers facilitating them. They are tribal members when it suits them and live, work in the outside world when it suits them.

The whole Indian nation concept has turned in to a scam for making money by exploiting loopholes in the white man's law. With the help of connected DemocRAT lawyers. Here's where the tribes tried to institute a kickback/payoff/bribe scheme for development in California. To make California one big sacred Indian site ------>

 

SACRAMENTO -- California Indians suffered a rare defeat in the closing hours of this year’s legislative session when lawmakers refused to approve a bill to protect tribal sacred sites.

Despite repeated votes and weeks of negotiation, the Assembly refused to approve the measure.

Senate Bill 18 by Senate leader John Burton, D-San Francisco, failed on a vote of 38-14, with 41 votes needed for passage.

The vote shocked tribal representatives and moved some to tears outside the chamber while leaving opponents muted in their victory. Advocates on both sides of the issue agreed this isn’t the end of the debate.

"This is something we are not going to give up on," said Brenda Soulliere, chairwoman of the California Nations Indian Gaming Association and a member of the Cabazon Band of Mission Indians, Indio. "We’ll come back stronger next year."

DeAnn Baker, a lobbyist for the California State Association of Counties, a member of a coalition that included most of the state’s major business interests opposed to the bill, agreed that the goal is worthwhile.

"I think we are willing to start over," Baker said.

The issue has pitted tribes, who argue that too often little attention is paid to their spiritually important sites in development projects, against business groups, which insist that the bill could block or delay a wide range of vital school, transportation and other projects.

SB 18 essentially would have required the state’s environmental review process to assess the potential impact of a development on a sacred site and to come up with ways to offset any damage.

There are an estimated 500 sacred sites in the state, according to proponents.

But the bill also would have given the existing Native American Heritage Commission an expanded role to develop criteria to identify sacred sites, list them and facilitate consultation among parties over possible developments.


9 posted on 09/21/2003 6:18:18 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The Supreme Court ALSO ruled that Oneidas had to collect and remit sales tax on sales made to non-Indians.

Wow. Hadn't heard about that one. Another completely idiotic decision by SCOTUS.

12 posted on 09/21/2003 6:32:03 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
You do know, of course, that Oneida "rolls" are secret. Bruce Babbitt got in trouble a few years back making them "public" for a few days. The law says the Oneida can keep that stuff secret.

Now, knowing that, how are the Oneida to know who among their customers are or are not "Indian" and therefore not subject to the taxes in question?

I think this would not be such a problem if the non-Oneida would just move off the land and give it all back like the USSC said.

35 posted on 09/22/2003 5:17:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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