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For Bart's, ban on smoking is a killer (smoking ban drives restaurant out of business)
The Rocky Mountain News ^ | 06/28/03 | Bill Johnson

Posted on 07/03/2003 10:44:39 AM PDT by Drew68

Johnson: For Bart's, ban on smoking is a killer

June 28, 2003

So who is going to march on City Hall and scream for Robert Mannion's rights?

The answer, of course, is no one. Indeed, Robert Mannion had no rights when it came to the conduct of his restaurant. It was the city's way, or the highway. And that is how this man's restaurant died.

Smoking killed it. Rather, it was the lack of it that forced its quick demise.

Less than a year after the city of Louisville enacted a no-smoking ordinance in all restaurants, Bart's, a fixture in the town for nearly three decades, shut its doors last week.

It had in recent months become a deserted shell of its former self. The bar, like many in Louisville restaurants these days, stood empty all day.

Robert Mannion tried virtually everything to resuscitate his business.

He drastically cut the price of his once-popular Sunday buffet, began offering 2-for-1 deals on supper, and even started a Bart's newsletter, mailing it to every local address he could locate.

In each one, he included a coupon for 20 percent-off on meals. It didn't work.

I have written of Bart's before, to illustrate the pitfalls of nonsmoking ordinances of the type with which Denver now struggles. Should it be the city's or the restaurant operator's call on smoking?

Robert Mannion had lost 99 percent of his smoking clientele after the ordinance passed, he said, the folks who once filled the place on Fridays, on the weekend and, particularly, on game days.

Their loss, he acknowledged, was killing him. And without a viable bar business, he couldn't offset his food costs.

I sort of knew Bart's would never survive. After I wrote about him the first time, even his beer suppliers called or e-mailed me, saying their trade there was but a fraction of even two years ago.

In the bars and hangouts in the towns around Louisville, you bring up the name Bart's and people tell you how they used to go there, how they don't now, how they used to really kind of like the joint.

Robert Mannion at first remained hopeful. Sure, he said, business was off some 66 percent since the ordinance went into effect. And it wasn't a good thing.

I still remember the lost look in his eyes when I asked him how long he figured he'd hold out. He just patted my shoulder, breathed a deep sigh and said he didn't know.

It was just before noon when I pulled in front of the place in search of Robert Mannion. Only a large "Closed" sign stood behind the door. And a note:

"Due to circumstances beyond our control, Bart's is closed indefinitely. We thank you for your support and memories."

As I was jotting this down, Howard Rose, 52, walked up and tugged on the restaurant's front door. I told him the news.

"I didn't know," he said, almost crestfallen. He runs an industrial supply business just up the road, and ate at Bart's at least once a week.

"I am sensitive to cigarette smoke," Howard Rose said, "but I still came. I never had a real problem because Robert was always really good about separating the smoke in the nonsmoking area."

And then there was Frank Gregg. He'd been coming to Bart's with his wife twice a week. You know, the coupons and all.

"Gone. Closed its doors," he spat.

See, he knew the actual Bart, the guy who opened the place all those years ago, a man who gave him a job 17 years ago playing guitar just off the bar area.

"When I started playing, StorageTek was in its heydey, and Friday nights would be packed. Sixty to 80 people in the bar, alone."

Even when StorageTek began laying off workers, the place still would have half as many people in the door, he said.

And it would remain that way. Until the smoking ban arrived.

"I'll always love that place," Frank Gregg said softly. "It gave me the most wonderful thing I'll ever receive in my life."

He met his wife there.

I never did find Robert Mannion. Phone calls and e-mail have gone unreturned.

I remember him telling me only weeks ago, as we stood in his empty, eerily quiet bar, how he did feel better in recent months. That maybe the anti-smoking people had a point.

After more than a decade working and hustling about smokers in his restaurant, his clothes no longer reeked of cigarette smoke.

He truly believed, he said, he was breathing better.

See, I wanted to ask Robert Mannion what he was thinking today. Was it, on balance, worth it?

Or was it - allowing people to smoke in his restaurant - a call he'd rather have made?

Bill Johnson's column appears Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Call him at (303) 892-2763 or e-mail him at johnsonw@RockyMountainNews.com


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To: Dilly
What the...?

Exactly Dilly...think before you type.

just like I'm against government bans on marijuana, cocaine, etc.

Again, Dilly, think before you type.

Stick around, you may learn some things.

FReegards,

FMCDH

41 posted on 07/03/2003 3:25:24 PM PDT by nothingnew (the pendulum swings and the libs are in the pit)
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To: Freedom4US
Nonsense! I'm a quitter too, several times, for years at a time, so I have plenty of experience as a 'non smoker' as well.

To begin with, don't tell me that my experience is nonsense. Secondly, you are quite obviously a "quitter" since you admit that you quit all your attempts at quiting. BUT, you definitely are not an ex-smoker. You're just an on again/off again smoker that never stays quit quite long enough to actually kick the habit. Loss of sense of taste and smell are very documentable affects of smoking. Stay quit for 20 or so years, then tell me about it, till then, don't pretend you know what it is like to be an ex-smoker for purposes of comparison. You don't.

42 posted on 07/03/2003 4:05:03 PM PDT by templar
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To: TnMomofTwo
I used to live in Louisville and enjoyed the food at Bart's. The price was right, food was tastey and you got large servings.

As a side note... the city of Boulder(10 miles away) passed a similar ban 5-6 years ago. As a result, the bar/restaurant businesses in Louisville did a booming business. The Boulder people came to the "smoking allowed" places and all was fine. The idiots of the city had to be stupid not to see what happened then. They have now screwed local business with their smoking ban. Liberals are always trying to dictate to everyone on how they should live their lives.

43 posted on 07/03/2003 4:18:57 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: HarryDunne
which means they have no time to do anything else, since all of them are always talking. Use quantified, verifiable statistics instead of generalizations. Where do all of them always say that non-smokers will pick up the slack? Nowhere, because not all of them say it and it's physically impossible to talk non-stop.

yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah.

The point still stands regardless of semantics.

44 posted on 07/03/2003 4:39:18 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Drew68
Every parade requires a bit of sweeping, won't be noticed at all in a few days.
45 posted on 07/03/2003 5:28:39 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Drew68
People who are very concerned about their health tend to avoid life on principle, but, I digress.
46 posted on 07/03/2003 5:34:05 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: templar
By your own reasoning, it wouldn't require 20 or more years to realize the effects of smoking on taste if recovery was possible; after all, the tissues in the mouth regenerate approximately every 48 hours.
47 posted on 07/03/2003 5:37:03 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Just another Joe
What's so freaking irritating about the corporate takeover of the restaurant business, the knick-knack shop business, the boutique clothing business, et. al., is the loss of choice. Everything has a mediocre sameness.
48 posted on 07/03/2003 5:44:54 PM PDT by The Westerner
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To: Old Professer
By your own reasoning, it wouldn't require 20 or more years to realize the effects of smoking on taste if recovery was possible;

I reasoned no such thing. Don't confuse your own foggy thought process with my reasoning. Ask around to a few ex-smokers who have actually quit for some confirmation. A return ofthe sense of taste and smell is usually one of the first things they notice, usually followed by a greater toelerance of very cold and very hot weather, during the first year.

49 posted on 07/03/2003 9:55:10 PM PDT by templar
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To: templar
You have a strange way of arguing.
50 posted on 07/04/2003 7:38:11 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Just another Joe
The point still stands regardless of semantics.

If you can't provide proof, your point is merely an uneducated opinion.

51 posted on 07/07/2003 6:14:00 AM PDT by HarryDunne
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To: HarryDunne
At every single public hearing I have attended regarding smoking bans the position of the anti-smoking contingent has been consistent to a fault. The claim is that business will not be hurt, in fact it will improve.

When confronted with the actual facts and figures that a ban is hurting business they turn it around and claim 'we knew it would hurt a bit, but it will turn around.'

When business does not pick up and situation's such as this article describes come about, the claim of the antis is "well the business was probably shaky to begin with."
52 posted on 07/07/2003 6:37:51 AM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: HarryDunne
If you can't provide proof, your point is merely an uneducated opinion.

On this subject I would posit that I am more informed than you.
You want a statement that comes down to semantics? OK

The anti-smokers, almost to a person, when asked, say that the non-smoking population will make up for the smokers staying away.
Is there 10% of the total population, at a conservative estimate, that doesn't smoke, that doesn't go out NOW, that WOULD go out because there is no more smoking in a business?

I don't have any scientific proof but I doubt it.

Better?

53 posted on 07/07/2003 6:59:08 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
On this subject I would posit that I am more informed than you.

Yet again, you provide no proof.

The anti-smokers, almost to a person, when asked, say that the non-smoking population will make up for the smokers staying away.

Again, you have no documentation, you provide no proof.

Better?

No. In fact, I'm done wasting my time arguing with you. Go annoy somebody else.

54 posted on 07/07/2003 8:13:19 AM PDT by HarryDunne
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To: Drew68
And without a viable bar business, he couldn't offset his food costs.

Yep, the bar generates 70%+ of the restaruant profits. The only way restaruants that lose bar business (because smokers want to smoke at the bar) can stay in business is to GREATLY increase food costs.

55 posted on 07/07/2003 8:18:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: HarryDunne
On this subject I would posit that I am more informed than you.

Yet again, you provide no proof.

You want proof?
How many of the following threads have you read? How many have you posted to? How many of these threads have you taken a side, for or against?
I think if you look on these threads you'll see that I have done my homework and have been consistent in the stance I take.

Big Drug's Nicotine War
Ifs and Butts
2 Robbed at Gunpoint for Cigarettes
PETITIONS AGAINST GOVERNMENT ENCROACHMENT
Raleigh (NC) radio station pulls anti-tobacco ads
For the Children
Neo-Nazi nannies lay siege to our homes
The Lure Of Nicotine `Candy'
GREAT SMOKING DISCUSSION ON KABC
Stamp Out Cigarettes?
Restaurants blast no smoking regulations
Don't live - or the Big C might kill you
Activists Butts In on Londoners
WHO wants copy of SA smoking ruling
Philip Morris report reprehensible
Co. Introduces New Tobacco Product
Ky. Smokers Offered Cash to Quit (Officials offer Grand Prize of Two thousand five hundred dollars)
Flak Magazine's Review of Free Republic #1 with a bullet
Smokophobia
Little of $246b deal fights tobacco: 44 states divert "Big Tobacco" money windfall
Butts on Beach making waves
Blubber Police are coming!
Oregon's Smoking Taliban - Oregonians who find smoking detestable need to lighten up
On misreported ETS studies Another goodie
Is Nicotine Good for the Heart?
The sick rise of health fascism
Study: Only 5 Percent of States' Tobacco Settlement Money Going to Smoking Prevention
Does tobacco smoke prevent atopic disorders? A study of two generations of Swedish residents.
President Bush Enjoys Occasional Cigar, and Passes Physical
Canada Targets `Mild' Cigarettes
Canada to ban "light" and "mild" tobacco labels
Anti-Smoking Policy Reminiscent of '3rd Reich' Here's another
Tobacco Ads Still Targeting Children, Study Shows
UK Public Supports Tobacco Ad Ban
Banned smokers now upsetting patio diners
Proposed restaurant smoke ban introduced
Secondhand smoke main cause of death in the workplace, study says
Butt out, government (Canada-Tobacco)
Store Owner caught in set-up by the Smoking Police
SONG PARODY: Strollin' Through the Park One Day (don't dare smoke)
Research fails to justify smoking ban in restaurants
Maine's smoking ban too modest
Anti-smoking activists target Marion
Calif. Smoker to Take Lower Philip Morris Damages
Smoke-Free or Free To Smoke?
Study: Tobacco Settlement Was About Money, Not Justice Another good one.
The Smoking Debate
Temple Terrace Smoking Ban Lifted
Congress not told of MTBE dangers EPA knew in 1987
The Glitzy Return of the Zippo Lighter
Tobacco Shops Grow in Popularity in Maine One for SheLion
McCrae's World
Lubbock, Texas, Smoking Ban
Groups might strike compromise on local smoking ban
Tobacco crisis real
Nicotine fixes
Guns that kill
Huffing and puffing over Ottawa's intolerant, excessive bylaw
Age-Old Quest: Can the Kahn Siblings Help Scientists Bottle the Secret to a Longer Life?
Vermont's "Smoking" Gun
Clinton Promises Bill Allowing States To Curb Tobacco Ads (Beast Alert!)
Smokers face 20-per cent higher risk of an early grave
Tobacco Ads Are Not the Problem
Shining The Light of Truth
SMOKING KILLS! (Literally) College Student dead after falling off ledge while smoking. Here's a Darwin award
A BALANCED PERSPECTIVE
L.A. May Snuff Out Smoking In City Parks
Arkansas governor rejects proposed restaurant smoking ban (state should not infringe on smokers)
Groups push to outlaw indoor smoking
Police Barred From Smoking in Philadelphia
Nonprofit group decides against releasing September poll results
HONOLULU SMOKING BAN NEEDS FREEPER HELP
Freedom snuffed out
Businesses feel sting of smoking ban
Montrose smoking ban upheld
Should I start smoking a pipe?
Gay American Smokeout
Effects of 1998 California Smoking Ban on Bars, Taverns and Night Clubs
Getting it two-thirds right
Health budget can take cuts too
State's tobacco tax buys bilingual kits to educate parents
Environmental Protection Agency Asking All Parents to Take the Smoke-Free Home Pledge Initiative
Duluth smoking ban on balloint again
Temple Terrace Smoking Ban Lifted
Duluth voters back indoor smoking ban.
Smoking ban sought by group
Outlawing drifting smoke -- and other dumb laws
Councilman burned up by smoking in line
Cigarette tax soars; will cheating, too? ("All hell is going to break loose.")
Why not just round up ALL the smokers???
Global Ridicule Extinguishes Montgomery's Anti-Smoking Bill
Beliefs About Low Self-Esteem 'Are Myths'
Backwards thinking in Maryland
Hollywood Up in Smoke
> Santa, smoking derail Montgomery Way (TRT Gets Mention)
Cigarette Nazis on the march: Williams examines latest government attempts to control citizens
Saudi hospital fights tobacco 'terrorists' ( Saudi to fight Jihad against smoking )
Smoking increases likelihood of impotency
McGreevey [NJ Gov Elect] may mop up red ink with tobacco cash
No smoking could mean fireplaces
NOW got federal tax dollars: Feminist group received anti-tobacco money during Clinton years
Groups Push to Outlaw Indoor Smoking
Activist Inc.: Professional Agitators can't claim to be 'grassroots"
Call off the lifestyle police
In Praise of Bad Habits (Healthism and Liberty)
Is this what's coming next in the anti-smoking war? (Vanity cartoon)
Young voices deliver mature performances
If Santa Had to Start Over...
City Hall smoking room should stay put
WHO cares? Yet another good one
Sheriff's office will only hire nonsmokers
Parents' second-hand smoke is really a form of child abuse Boil your blood
Lighten Up, America! (Do Fat People Belong In Public Parks?)
City's Privileged Puffers
Agencies' Facilities for Smoking Range From Outdoors to Cozy
ASH vs OSHA
ASHRAE ponders new anti-anti rules
Rather than banishing smokers, just choose not to sit next to them A nice viewpoint
Sheriff's office will only hire nonsmokers
Is it just me........
Property Rights Are The Answer
Who may harm whom?
Undercover officers will check if bars, eateries are smoke-free
Bid at end run on smoking bylaw called 'perversion'
Bars become private to beat smoking ban
Is Eating On The Run The Next Target of Big Brother Government?
Doughnut shop bans children to allow customers to smoke
Property Rights Are The Answer
18-year-old's cigarette break proves costly
Smokers have right to firing squad
How does columnist feel about laws against disturbing the peace?
Letters to the Editor
atch: Group should give up smoking-ban campaigns
Kingwood challenges county, City votes to allow smoking in areas banned by Preston
Angelos offers to reduce Maryland tobacco suit fee
A Lawyer on Every Shore: NIMBY goes Malibu
[Health Powers] Bill would give governors absolute power
Home Is Danger Zone for Passive Smoking -Study
January 11, 1868, Harper's Weekly featured a cartoon about tobacco use.
Smoking ban bills to air this week
Smokers hold their breath
Smokers in Topeka have three words for Gov. Graves: Just butt out
Chinese smokers 'need less nicotine'
Panel awards $111 million to Missouri tobacco lawsuit lawyers: Lawyers to finance 'RAT candidates
Rochester lodging group seeks review of anti-smoking campaign's funding
Ban Smoking? Poll needs Freeping.
THE $750M HANDSHAKE
Liberals tackle booze and butts in 2002
Peter Jennings on Smoking
TN STATE SEN ROSALIND KURITA WANTS TO RAISE CIGARETTE TAX 30 cents, IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN (my title)
Smoking banned in playgrounds\
Discarding truth
(Smoking) Ban could extend to rural areas
Officials stay out of debate
Political heat about smoking ban crusade is long overdue
Be serious about smoke
Foes say tobacco firms silently make their case
Special entrance for bureaucrats (including praetorians) and politicians
How to Win a GIANT Tobacco Verdict
Smoking When Pregnant Tied to Risk That Offspring Will Be Criminals Another blood boiler
Any one else sick of smokingisugly? Another blood boiler
Smoke-free Clover Patch to smell a little sweeter
> A Breathtaking Study of the Real Antismoking Nazis
Lawyers See Fat Payoffs in Junk Food Lawsuits
The 'Truth' About Smoking Is A Lie, Lorillard Says
Fags Keep Singles On The Shelf
Five reasons for not smoking in your home
17-cent tobacco tax looks doomed
Warning: a cigarette ban can harm your election chances
Tobacco replacing drugs inside prisons in Maine
Joe Bob's America: Dog pile on the smoker
Stop the lawsuit against the tobacco companies
Smoking ban initiative has rival
Tents with walls, roofs bend smoking bylaw
Tobacco Companies Try to Recoup W.Va. Trial Expenses
Weymouth Board of Health expands ban on smoking: Private organizations now will be included
Barnesville Students Are Paid to Tell
Washington State Smokers in Trouble
Maryland should raise tobacco tax
THE LEFTIST WAR ON THE INDIVIDUAL
Clouds gather over Fla. no-smoke fight
> Tobacco Company Sued in Ads Dispute
`Truth' Ads Should Keep Big Tobacco In Doghouse
Cig Pack Is $7 Under Bloomy Budget
Cash-Strapped States Expected to Hike Tobacco Taxes
Right to live overrides right to smoke
Smoke is poison (barf alert)
Ventilation solution given thumbs up
***HEY KENTUCKY ****Draud: Raise tax on smokes
AN INSIDER'S ACCOUNT OF TOBACCO CONTROL IN CANADA
State tobacco tax may double
RESTRICTING R-MOVIES LINKED TO DECREASED TEEN SMOKING, DRINKING
Sri Lanka cuts cigarette price, faced with competition from bootleg
Vilification or Education?
Feeling overtaxed, smokers head for Idaho and Oregon
Stopping smoke makes sense (Delaware)
Lorillard Tobacco Co. Sues Anti-Smoking Group Over Advertising
Judge Rejects European Suit on Cigarettes
A Sign of Things to Come? Expanding the Tobacco Industry Lawsuits Against All Industry
State-By-State Cigarette Tax Hike Proposals
States Eye Cigarette Tax Increases

56 posted on 07/07/2003 8:20:08 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: HarryDunne
Another set?

Calif. Mulls Hiking Smoking Age
Suspicions confirmed
Secondhand smoke linked to SIDS
Proposal Would Raise Legal Smoking Age (to 21)
PKK Turkey Iraq :U.S. Tobacco Companies Accused of Terrorist Ties And Iraqi Sanctions-Busting
17-cent tobacco tax looks doomed
Infct Truth - Anti-Tobacco Campaign
California Medical Association votes to hike smoking age to 21
The American Legacy Foundation's "Truth Campaign": Using Tobacco Funds
Cigarette Tax Hikes Gaining Momentum
States Eyeing Sin Taxes
Mike's Cig Tax Will Backfire
Smoking Hypocrisy
Americans have supersized themselves to where obesity is No. 1 killer
UN Study Calls For Higher Tobacco Taxes
Connecticut Legislature Approves 61-Cent Increase in State's Cigarette Tax
Doc deserves a kick in the butt
Small Counties Feeling Pinch After Tobacco Investments Go Sour (invested in Enron with settlement $)
Promoting the general welfare
They're coming after you
Lighting Up - Israelis breathe easier because they still smoke.
Ad Banned, but Smoking on Screen Isn't
The 2002 Session: Democrats look at tobacco deal for bailout
Judge Dismisses Suits Over Cigarette Smuggling
Cigarette Tax Hike Has Mom Mad at Gov.
WHO Says Cheap Tobacco a Growing Concern
New Study Shows Nymox NicAlert - TM - Product Detects Second Hand Smoke in Children
WHO slams 'lying' SA tobacco firm
Hospitals want hike in sin tax
Group Urges Smokers To Take Habit Outdoors
Lawmaker wants more tax on soft drinks
Study Claims Tobacco Ads Still Target Kids
Justice Department to Impose Restrictions on Tobacco Labeling
Under the Influence
Study: Obese Pay More For Care Than Smokers (Obesity Causes More Long-Term Health Problems)
Tobacco settlement and conflicting goals
States Investing Their Tobacco Settlements In Tobacco Stocks
4 plead to smuggling for terrorists
'R' rating urged for movie smoking
Tobacco settlement fumes
Smoke-Filled Room No Place for Children
Obesity worse than smoking, says study
Tobacco-Settlement Payoff Shrinking
(CT)State Tax Chief Says Crackdown Coming On Tax Free Cigarettes-Internet Sales Targeted
Tax Man Wants A Bite Of Cookie
Board: Ban on smoking will remain
Kingwood's smoking law, county clash. City sees fight as civil rights issue.
Seeing Through the Smoke
Was doctor a hero or hypocrite?
New attacks against Big Tobacco: Jon Dougherty wonders what Bush officials are smoking
Smoking's Filmy Glamour
States Catch More Heat for Handling of Tobacco Settlements
Anti-smokers ought to butt out of movies
The "For Your Own Good" Police Are Coming...After You
Tobacco Money Goes to Multiple Projects
Court Bars Mom from Smoking Around Child
Angelos to get $150 million for tobacco lawsuit
NO FAT TAX
Firefighters banned from using tobacco products
'Light' Smokers Sue Tobacco Industry
Have a smoke, lose your child: Dennis Prager warns citizens of overbearing judicial precedent
Should Smoking Just Be Illegal?
Smokers need not apply
JUDGE BARS MOM FROM SMOKING
Judge Imposes Smoking Ban on Mother
Puyallup plans to ban smoking in 13 city parks
No reason to breathe second-hand smoke at all
Tobacco users need not apply
Interview a Smoker (grade school homework assignment)
Liberty For One Is Lost
Cigars And Fire Insurance
Walgreens wants teen to change site name
N.Y. Smokers Vent About Cig Tax Plan
Posted on Fri, Mar. 29, 2002 Ban on smoking goes to voters
The "For Your Own Good" Police Are Coming...After You
Smoked Out
Vanity - Did I just hear an ad for a 100% safe cigarette on Fox?
Capitol No Smoking Bill Watered Down - Lawmakers can smoke in their offices
City of Lubbock Smoking Ordinance (complete text)
The Campaign Against Big Food
Inside dirt on Big Tobacco
Should Hollywood Movies be Smoke FREE?
Stop the Food Fascists!
HOLLYWOOD STILL SMOKING
Taxing ways
Smokers stock up before tax increase: 39-cent hike goes into effect today
Indian kiosks put tax-free cigarettes online
Class action suit on behalf of California smokers
Scots roll up for duty free Bacci Bus
Legislative committee rejects smoking rules
SMOKERS COUGH UP 39 MORE A PACK
Grand Island hears proposal to ban tobacco in city parks (so many silly quotes, so little time)
Proliferation of Nicotine Lollipops Underscores Need for FDA Regulation of all Nicotine Products
Tobacco Growers Win Court Victory
Authorities Arrest Bridgeport Cigarette Retailer (TAX REVOLT IN PROGRESS!)
Professor's time travel idea fires up the imagination
National Health Organizations Challenge Governors: Increase Excise Tax on Cigarettes and Save Lives
March 4, 2002 - More States Receive Funding To Fight Tobacco Use
Smokers rights cloud ASHRAE IAQ debate
Oklahoma: Limits on smoking draw fire
Conn. Gov. Pays for Mom's Smokes
Financial toll of tobacco use
Free Smokes Signal An Attack on Cig Tax
Soft drinks can be as addictive as cigarettes
State (Missouri) may use future tobacco money for budget crisis now
Research Highlights Tobacco Companies' Strategy for Fighting Advertising Ban
Study shows each pack of cigarettes costs U.S. $7
Capitol gazebo idea sparks debate over smokers' rights
Biodegradable butt fails to impress tobacco firms
Campus Invasion: When the Anti-Smoking Campaign Turned Left
Legislature argues worth of Target Market anti-tobacco program
How a Tax on Cigarettes Can Help The Taxed
Don't smoke! It's like stealing from your company!
Media's refusal to compromise credibility is welcome
Promises to keep
Cigarette taxes to generate more revenue than corporate income taxes
The more you drink, the more you make
(Delaware) Cigarette Tax Proposed
Smoking Taxes On the Rise
Study: Couples Who Smoke More Likely to Produce Baby Girls
Freedom of choice? I choose breathing
McRae's World
SMOKE-IN IN DC--FREEPER HELP REQUESTED!
Hatch: Give MPAAT's money to 'U,' Department of Health
Okay, I'm open to suggestions, part I
Oklahoman Editorial: Dr. Beitsch, Heal Thyself
(In Vermont) Democrats tangle with GOP over cigarette tax again
House will consider smoking bill
Republicans...Plans To Solve Ohio Budget Crunch (Cigarette tax)
Positive Nicotine Test To Keep Student From Prom
Cigarettes Are Big Business For Federal And State Governments
Md. Tobacco Farmers Mixed on Buyout
Sunset the Amok Federal Bureaucracy (support H.R. 2373)
Group puts 'consume' back in the consumer - Calls sugar doughnut an essential freedom
Pols hit tax snag (Not "If to Raise Taxes" only "Which Ones"
Anti-smoking ads win attention
New York apartment board 'bans smoking'
House will consider smoking bill
Former tobacco model sues Reynolds over 'reputation'
Smokers to butt out amid fear of lawsuits
Smoke rejecters
House OKs indoor smoking ban/Delaware
The Puritans Run Amok Over Smoking
Thompson says he supports benefits for legal immigrants, cigarette tax hike
Cigarette tax becomes healthy habit
No Smoking as a Way of Life
Smoking bill back in Delaware Senate
Even a Little Smoke Affects Children, Study Finds
Three-Fourths Of Pennsylvania Voters Favor Tobacco Tax Increase
Official says bar owners must tell smokers to leave premises
Doctors to light fire under smokers
Program uses lockdown techniques to stop smoking
Cigarette Smuggling Probed
Secondhand Smoke a Threat Even Outdoors
Delaware Senate set to snuff out smoking
Tommy Thompson Floats New Tobacco Tax
Smoking bill back in Delaware Senate
Moroney: Don't like smoke? Then just butt out
Government may face big loss in tobacco deal Damaged leaf has been in storage since '99
The New Intolerance?
Del. Senate Passes Anti-Smoking Bill
Cigarette taxes and terrorism
A Healthy Ellsworth,Maine/I can't believe this!
New News Concerning The Impact of Smoking
Cigarette taxes and terrorism
What Is WHO Doing?
Judge asks some questions about antismoking group's strategy
Delaware businesses fearful for future
Lawyers Allege Cigarettes, Terror Link
Smoked Out
Smoked out-In the end, the massive settlement penalized those who light up Not the Tobacco Co.
R.J. Reynolds Trial Comes to Close
A program in ashes
Terrorist-financing trial nears
Two cigar stores snuffed out (Thanks to taxes)
Studies: Smoking may be a cause of mental illness/Barf Alert
Esai Morales Joins National Campaign to Reduce Smoking Among Hispanics; 'NYPD Blue' Star
Trade Groups and Tobacco Businesses Criticize Cigarette Tax Increase as Fiscal Irresponsibility
Tempe narrowly approves smoking ban
Smoking bill was won with sheer zeal/Delaware
Citizens fired up regarding county s stance on smoking ban/MN
Another $0.25 a pack for Michigan Residents being considered, (boosts tax to $1 dollar)
The Smoking Nazis
International e-mail campaign supports Delaware smoking measure
SMOKE GET IN YOUR EYES?
Smoker Fumes & Fights Back Defending right to light up
Federal Court Rules Against EPA on Secondhand Smoke
Judge Osteen's Ruling on the Tobacco Industry's EPA Lawsuit: Summary and Practical Implications
Poor, mentally ill focus of campaign to reduce smoking
Delaware Readies Nation's Toughest Smoking Ban/BARF ALERT
Coastal 200 at Wiscasset Sunday worth $10,000/Bend OVER Maine Smokers!!
Industry Anti-Smoking Ads Make Kids Smoke - Report
County ERF Bans Smoking; Some Smokers Fume
Public smoking foes target the holdouts/MASS
Montenegrin president under investigation in Italy
Smoking bill now law in Delaware
Coffee targeted as Seattle tax source/They drained the smokers, now it's coffee!
Cigarette maker sponsors races in Delaware, where soon indoor smoking will be illegal
Zippo Closing Canadian Operations
MIKE JUDGE SELLS OUT TO THE ANTI-SMOKING NAZIS TRUTH.COM
Lobbyists Spent $565 Million to Influence States
Access Laws Do Not Lower Rates of Teen Smoking
Bill to be introduced to raise California smoking age to 21

57 posted on 07/07/2003 8:22:08 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: HarryDunne
And this set finishes off June 2001 to June 2002.

Let me know if you want 2002 to 2003.

An urgent need for civil justice reform
VINEYARD FEUDS OVER BAR SMOKE/TWO TOURIST TOWNS DIFFER ON THE ISSUE/Mass
Study looks at impact of smoking ban/Delaware
Saving Fat People From Themselves
$79.5M Tobacco Award Reinstated
Bay State cigarette prices may become highest in US
Helena Smoking Ordinance
Burnsville won t ban smoking in bars, restaurants/MN
EPA ISSUANCE OF THE REPORTS STINGS THE BOSS
AP News Alert (Judge fines R. J. Reynolds $20 million for targeting teen-agers)
(Australian) Democrats call to ban smoking while driving
Governor proposes tripling cigarette tax
Pennsylvania Gov. $1-Per-Pack Cigarette Tax, Says Too Many Kids Still Buying Tobacco
The man who would sue America's junk-food industry
Tobacco Buyout Leads to Crop Dustup
Health Coalition Calls on New York State Senate to Act on Secondhand Smoke Bill/MORE ANTI LIES!
Cigarette Taxes Prompt Smuggling, Critics Charge
Cigarette Taxes Prompt Smuggling, Critics Charge
Unsubsidize Cigarettes/Ok Mainers! Enough Is Enough!
Second Hand Smokescreens
New plan clouds Delaware smoking ban
U.S. Senators offer bill regulating tobacco by FDA/I Knew This Was Coming....
Bangor to consider park smoking ban Nurse urges panel to adopt ordinance/Give Me A Break!
Lawyers Licking Chops over Food Fight
Restaurants prepare to go smoke-free in 3 weeks
Lawmakers rethink cigarette tax boost
Bar owners may get jail time for allowing smoking
Smoking Ban Puts Restaurant Profits Up In Smoke/They Finally Admit It!
A Jury Awards $5.5 Million in a Secondhand Smoke Case
U.S. firms buying stolen tobacco?
Second-Hand Smoke Causes Cancer: WHO Panel reviews past research, decides risk is significant
Junk science about obesity
Waitsfield employer won't hire smokers/VT
Now There's A Headline About Taxing Tobacco/This guy is a joke, right?

58 posted on 07/07/2003 8:25:11 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
You want proof?

Again, I did. But I said that I'm done talking to you, that means listening as well. (Is this thing on?) Please, again, i'm done talking to you.

59 posted on 07/07/2003 8:34:44 AM PDT by HarryDunne
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Can't take the time to do the research?
Just say, "I'm done talking to you, that means listening as well."

I guess by default that means you win the match. /sarcasm

60 posted on 07/07/2003 8:41:54 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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