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To: Luis Gonzalez
We have over a 50% divorce rate in this country, unmarried teenage girls are giving birth to fatherless babies at a rate that has forced some schools to offer day care services in order to keep them in school. We cohabitate like there's no tomorrow, fornicate to the point where virgins are considered to be an oddity.

Luis: Wake up call! Who are fighting on the front of the above issues? Traditionalist! Who is out there making it worse? The *same* people and the same forces that want to impose gay lifestyles as an equivalent lifestyle, want to create gay marriage, are out there trying to squash abstinence education and moral values in schools and in institutions (eg boy scouts), want to undermine those upholding traditional values.

Meanwhile those making the case day in day out for moral values in everyday lives are attacked as homophobes - case in point is DR LAURA SCHLESINGER. She has done more than any other person in the US to raise awareness and attack *those very problems* you mention. She has attacked wanton divorce, she coached people through making the moral choice, she is out there Is she praised? Nope. She was ignored until some choice comments about sexual deviancy of the gay lifestyle got her pilloried as a 'homophobe'. let's be honest, we all practically are deep down live-n-let-live about this issue, it's how far particular moral and aesthetic sensibilities have to be repressed to accept this activity in the cultural/social realm as a 'norm'. Moynihan called it 'defining deviancy down'. It's not about whether sodomy will occur or not - it's about whether moralists will have the freedom to call it "immoral". You want hypocrisy? Those who attacked Dr Laura for her 'insensitive' remarks claim to want 'tolerance' but they are VERY INTOLERANT of any attitude that opposes them. Sensitivity and tolerance are a one-way street for these folks. Now I ask you: Whose side are you on? The side of those who want to stand up to divorce, illegitimacy, trashy behavior by teenage girls and boys, or those who think all of the above - and sodomy and 'if it feels good it's okay' sexual mores - should be 'accepted' on the same moral plane as fidelity to family values and marriage vows. The fetish with homosexual 'acceptance' is having huge negative consequences for sexual mores in the next generation. the radicals wouldnt have it any other way, for their agenda is far bigger than the 2% of us who are homosexuals.

372 posted on 06/27/2003 9:41:42 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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To: WOSG
We all have the freedom to call it immoral, we have the freedom to call it a sin.

What we don't have the freedom to do is to say "it's a sin and it is immoral for them, but not for me", and that's what same-sex exclusive anti-sodomy laws do.

This door was opened by ALL OF US, my conservative friends fornicate and cohabitate every bit as much as my Liberal friends do, they always have.

This door was opened decades ago, when those of us who are traditionalists today, practiced making love and not war, it continued thorough a disco haze, and now it's come back to slap us in the face as we get older.

It's the law of unintended consequences, we opened the Pandora's box of "sexual revolution" without thinking about the possibility that everyone would want to revolt right along.

Sodomy, fornication, and adultery are all sins in the eyes of Our Maker, and there were laws against every single one of those sins in the America of the Founders, note that we have lifted all criminality from those things which we enjoy, and that the only remaining laws address sodomy, and in an increasing number, only same sex sodomy.

If sodomy is a sin, and it's a destructive influence on society, then why are you not raising Holy Hell about the decriminalization of it for 97% of the people of Texas?

374 posted on 06/27/2003 9:51:12 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba serĂ¡ libre...soon.)
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