Maine: No Smoking In Bars/Taverns Come September

Thetimesrecord.com ^ | 6-12-03 | Bob Kalish

[Leisler]

Didnt drink,
didnt smoke
(and hated 2nd hand smoke),
didnt eat meat...
truly, a hero for PC times..

[Capt_Hank]

I know what you mean. I stopped by a local Pub in Moorestown and went to light up a Lusitania. Was told no cigar or pipe smoking. My reply, "Cancel my drink, I'll go home, drink a beer and smoke in peace."

[Eowyn-of-Rohan]

I was thinking the same thing... by their logic, a ban on drinking in bars should be next! Imagine all the lives that would be saved! cut drunk driving accidents down by 60-75%!

[fight_truth_decay]

Put aside the fact that a ski resort is a much different sort of animal than a bar or resturant

Not really..a bar is a bar and Sunday River has plenty of bars. People just made a choice to ski over smoke. It is geared to the family, I admit.

I do agree in your right to 'light up' as it is not against the law; but this has been going on in Maine for some time..no smoking unless under the Class 10 license. There wasn't but a couple restaurants around me that allowed smoking in their bar areas. So I am used to it.

The local watering hole or the small business tavern (more liquor sales then food) owner is going to be hurt by this law. Most bars/eateries near me see their surge of income in the summer months. Maine's biggest industry is also tourism. I also might add, the owner was smoking while we discussed this ban. I was surprised he was not more upset over it..definitely not as much as you.

I wonder sometimes why a poster has to yell and remark "Ya get it?" like he is the only intelligent life on this planet. I do understand where you are coming from. I just reported on those owners I spoke with in regard to this smoking ban.

Yes, they would have liked a 10 pm. timeframe to allow smoking at night. The owners, as I mentioned above, will now drop the Class 10 and pick up the business they lost if an underage person entered the pub/eaterie without a parent(but still in the company of an adult) for lunch or dinner.

The tavern owner will patrol himself. He will decide if it is worth the fine to allow smoking. However, they could lose their license if multiple violations are reported by 'concerned citizens'. So buy any newbie a drink when they enter.. and show em some of your good ole Maine charm.

This 'ski place' as you so aptly put it has places(resorts) all over the country.

F_T_D

[vikingcelt]

Yeah I really seriously think that all of that drinking that goes on in bars must be stopped immediately!!! I mean where's the outrage about THAT? There should be absolutely NO drinking in bars. It's harmful to your health don't ya know?

[ezo4]

bye bye revenue

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

Next year the legislature will wonder why revenue from cigarette taxes is down.

Next year they will wonder what to tax next.

[fight_truth_decay]

Who's gonna enforce this?

The owner.

Smokers simply went elsewhere.

No, they still skied during the day (a recreational mindset) and still crowded the bars into the night.

ARE organizations in this country which will take their case and represent them should they decide to fight.

As I stated that costs money and in that business you are running a business from morning til late at night. Schedules are hard to coordinate. However, you are correct; they should fight it and not just talk about it, but will they?

Wouldn't you think the tobacco $$$ industry would be in this fight with them?

Respectfully,

f_t_d

[fight_truth_decay]

Next year they will wonder what to tax next.

The lottery might offer a new type of ticket?

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

Legalize prostitution. No smoking!

[Those_Crazy_Liberals]

"One of the consequences of term limits is the tremendous number of freshman representatives who are sometimes at the mercy of lobbyists because the lobbyists are the individuals who know the most about certain subjects."

This has to be about the dumbest things I've heard in describing term limits. Legislating isn't rocket science.

[Conspiracy Guy]

I had a friend in the USAF David Vandine. He was from Maine and I went there with him in 74. Maine was like a cold Alabama with lobster back then. Now it has turned into pile of crap. Get out because either the Canadians or the commies have taken over. Maine, rest in peace.

[F16Fighter]

While I despise people smoking in closed public quarters like restaurants, it is certainly to be expected in bars and taverns and horse tracks, etc., by any stretch of the imagination...

The larger question still looms: Just what the h*ll are these busy-body over-officious b@stards of government doing interfering with private, legal>/i> businesses??

[F16Fighter]

While I despise people smoking in closed public quarters like restaurants, it is certainly to be expected in bars and taverns and horse tracks, etc., by any stretch of the imagination...

The larger question still looms: Just what the h*ll are these busy-body over-officious b@stards of government doing interfering with private, legal businesses??

[suijuris]

I'm with you. I will not go to any watering hole that does not allow me to smoke a cigar. A good single malt and a good cigar are better than sex.

[dljordan]

Where is the boiling point? Have we been so beaten down that we just take this crap? I'll bet the smokers never thought this would happen when they voted for these turkeys. There's a breakdown coming one of these days.

[cricket]

The test continues and the people continue to fail;

how many rights will be taken/usurped by Government, before the populace, like the slowly cooked frog; is cooked?

[dorothy]

You aksed, "What's the next step in political correctness? "

Well, in my town the nicotine nannies barred smoking in all public places, including bars. So we stepped outdoors to smoke. Not really surprisinging, an automatic social camaraderie spring up, and instead of huddling in solitary pariahism, we formed into clumps of smokers, often luring out nonsmokers who wanted to be where all the fun was.

Then the city nannies decided, based on the same kind of "science" that's bringing us global warming, that ordinary folks might be forced to walk through the deadly cloud of toxic second-hand smoke thus created and passed a law that you can't smoke within 20 feet of any building, excepting only a few designated patio areas.

That's our current law, but let's just say that so far no law enforcement personnel have seen fit to take on a group of potentially quite unruly smokers. And we have lost quite a number of French (if that's really a loss), Israeli and Japanese tourist groups, bad news for a "resort destination."

[cricket]

"Next year they will wonder what to tax next. "

These folks are calculating and methodical. . .and patient.

Suspect their hit list is already prepared for 'next year'; and the next and the one folowing that. . .

[Thebaddog]

Send another shipment of tofu and Heather has two Mommies books up to the People's Republic of Maine. Universal health care and serious behavior modification statutes are ruling the day.