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To: pram
Do you not see that that's a very broad brush? Would you accept the premise of a similar question such as, "Do you not agree that people with guns kill people?"

You wouldn't accept the premise or the insinuation of that question nor should you. It's no different with this subject. Yes, there are some who have a radical agenda to pass hate crimes laws and present themelves in schools as an equally viable alternative lifestyle and those who want to force themselves into the Boy Scouts. Those things are all wrong and should be opposed.

But that's not to say that it's not possible to peacefully coexist with the average homosexual who lives a quiet life and harms no one, which I believe is the vast majority.

247 posted on 06/03/2003 6:10:59 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
I and probably others here would not have any problem with homosexuals who peacefully keep to themselves and do not push school indoctrination, "gay pride" parades, law changes, public park and bathroom sodomy acceptance, etc.
But how do you propose dealing with the minority (according to you) who DO loudly and aggressively push the "gay agenda"?
249 posted on 06/03/2003 6:16:19 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: tdadams
Yes, there are some who have a radical agenda to pass hate crimes laws and present themelves in schools as an equally viable alternative lifestyle and those who want to force themselves into the Boy Scouts. Those things are all wrong and should be opposed.

Thank you for a very clear statement.

But that's not to say that it's not possible to peacefully coexist with the average homosexual who lives a quiet life and harms no one, which I believe is the vast majority.

That such a homosexual does exist could theoretically be possible. I doubt it, though, because mental illness is rarely so compartmentalized. We could go off onto people who are not homosexual who have similar illnesses. They aren't happy to just be left alone. They need to spread the misery. Why? I don't know, but it happens all the time.

Homosexual attraction is a mental illness. It is not particularly debilitating if it only results in two people of the same sex having a quiet relationship together. But it is an illness. If there are gays who are happy to live together quietly, they will find that I quietly support them in the specific (as the many gays I know do). But the very real homosexual agenda exists precisely because homosexual attraction is a mental illness. In the specific, our culture is being destroyed by the homosexual agenda and it needs to be fought. One way to fight it is to quit pretending that gays are just like straights only different.

Shalom.

277 posted on 06/06/2003 9:00:33 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: tdadams
Yes, there are some who have a radical agenda to pass hate crimes laws and present themelves in schools as an equally viable alternative lifestyle and those who want to force themselves into the Boy Scouts. Those things are all wrong and should be opposed.

1. What's more outrageous, the fact that hate crime laws have already been passed, schools all over the nation are already teaching homosexuality as a viable alternative lifestyle, the Boy Scouts have been demonized, defunded, and pushed out of facilities in many areas of the country, or, they fact that Gary Bauer, and some other Christians think the RNC chairman is giving a level of approval to the gay agenda by both meeting with the HRC and using their rhetoric?

2. If you find the first part more outrageous, why aren't you arguing passionate against it? If you find it equally outrageous, why aren't you giving equal time to it? If you find the latter more outrageous, we have no common ground at all and belong in different political parties.

297 posted on 06/08/2003 8:56:08 AM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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