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LAPD shoots, kills driver believed reaching for gun; no gun found
Modesto Bee ^ | 2/1/03 | AP

Posted on 02/02/2003 12:48:19 AM PST by hoosierskypilot

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:55:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

LOS ANGELES(AP) - Two police officers on Saturday shot and killed a driver believed to be reaching for a gun, however, no gun was found, a police spokesman said. Veteran Officer Gordon Olson, with 19 years on the Police Department, spotted a car downtown with two men going the wrong way down a one way street about 1:30 a.m.


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To: hoosierskypilot
Disarm the police, arm all the citizens, Crime will drop by
75 percent.
21 posted on 02/02/2003 5:20:34 AM PST by Trickyguy
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To: Centurion2000
"...If that cop doesn't see a gun .... the SOB should NOT shoot..."

Better to be judged by 12 than be carried by 6!

23 posted on 02/02/2003 5:28:05 AM PST by albee
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To: BlueMoose
"...The man killed, Casey G. Porter, 30, also of Nikiski, had broken his neck and his back in a car wreck last August, Wik said, and he had been using a cane to help operate the clutch of his car.

If this guy was so handicapped, What The Hell Was He Doing Driving A Car?????

24 posted on 02/02/2003 5:33:19 AM PST by albee
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To: BlueMoose
Had his car "accident" occurred while he was under the influence of cocaine?
25 posted on 02/02/2003 5:37:27 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: The Raven
"When you get stopped for a traffic violation - it doesn't mean you just robbed a bank."

No it doesn't.

Perhaps you will tell those of us, who are mentally challenged, just what it means, from the police officers perspective, of course.

So you had a "bad" experience in that you were stopped by the police.

And for only going a little over the speed limit.

Oh....I understand.

26 posted on 02/02/2003 5:44:03 AM PST by G.Mason (That metallic "click" is the last sound you hear)
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To: G.Mason
1:30 am, LA, going wrong way on one way street

Ok, which of these is the clue that the driver is rightfully a target for deadly force? Is it driving at 1:30 AM, or being in LA. These are not, to my knowldege, criminal acts, nor are either of these suspicious behavior, since I would wager that there are a good hundred thousand people on the streets at 1:30 AM in LA.

Or perhaps it is the driving the wrong way down a one-way street? That must be it. This is the modus operandi of drug dealers, bank robbers and terrorsists - the first thing you do when trying to evade police who otherwise didn't even know you were there is drive the wrong way down a one way street. I have little experience in LA. I have a lot in San Francisco, DC, Boston and New York. Let me tell you - one-way signs in our metropolitan areas are not always clear and obvious and it is easy to make a wrong turn and drive the wrong way down a one way street. I have done it more times than I would like to admit. Perhaps for this vioaltion of the motor vehicle code someone should take me out and shoot me.

27 posted on 02/02/2003 5:46:31 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: hoosierskypilot
Ya shot a good guy, Harry.

...again...

28 posted on 02/02/2003 5:48:07 AM PST by meyer
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To: Travis McGee
Bump.
29 posted on 02/02/2003 5:48:25 AM PST by Rebelbase (Rock with Celtic roots at http://www.sevennations.com)
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To: Cvengr
The third lesson is not to get involved with rock cocaine.

Where does it say that?

30 posted on 02/02/2003 5:49:14 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: albee
If everyone took this attitude, then the occupants of the car would be justified in shooting at the cops. After all, cops can be jittery, as several stories have proven. Better judged by twelve than carried by six....
31 posted on 02/02/2003 5:49:19 AM PST by NukeMan
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I guess using the same logic you believe that Saddam is not a threat and we should refrain from attacking until he does?

You're a got dang genius! A perfect analogy. Not only is this the correct application of logic, it is a perfect example that in hindsight there was no justification for the 2 officers actions.

In this country we are suppose to try'em THEN fry'em (unless some public servant decides to save us the money).

These 2 perps made a mistake and 1 of them paid for it with his life. These 2 cops made a mistake that they should never be given the opportunity to repeat.

32 posted on 02/02/2003 5:56:42 AM PST by Gore_ War_ Vet (Attacking Iraq and taking over the world is not Conservative! FYI)
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To: metesky
The Chief say litterers are next.

Purrrrfectttt!
33 posted on 02/02/2003 6:02:48 AM PST by Gore_ War_ Vet (Attacking Iraq and taking over the world is not Conservative! FYI)
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To: G.Mason
>>Perhaps you will tell those of us, who are mentally challenged

No thanks
34 posted on 02/02/2003 6:11:15 AM PST by The Raven
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To: Diddle E. Squat; Centurion2000
"Subject made a furtive movement toward waistband."

Sorry boys, case closed. Nobel Committee will just have to find another Chemistry Prize recipient.

35 posted on 02/02/2003 6:14:26 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: AndyJackson
I understand the "I didn't see the sign" syndrome....

and the "I'm lost" syndrome....

and even the "what the hell is he stopping me for" syndrome....

but I fail to understand the "why should I listen to him for, I'm a free American" syndrome.

I would hope you, and others, will realize I am refering to THIS incident.

Admittedly many police (about 800,000 nation wide) make bad decisions.

Also many shouldn't be police officers.

That is the "I'm only human" syndrome. ;)

36 posted on 02/02/2003 6:36:21 AM PST by G.Mason (Lessons of life needn't be fatal)
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To: The Raven
"No thanks"

Boy, am I surprised.

Carlino,in WAIT UNTIL DARK, to Mike Talman....

"Mr. Talman, you're not a lawyer by any chance?"

Mike...."No, I'm not, but...."

Carlino....No, I didn't think you were."

37 posted on 02/02/2003 6:43:01 AM PST by G.Mason (Lessons of life needn't be fatal)
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To: hoosierskypilot
Their lead instructot is the perp from the FBI that shoots first and makes excuses later. One of these days, there has got to be punishment for such acts, even if nothing more than losing their jobs. A statement has to be made, for the good of the citizens.
38 posted on 02/02/2003 6:46:19 AM PST by cynicom
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To: AndyJackson
Where does it say that?

"A preliminary search of the driver and the vehicle did not turn up any weapons," the sergeant said, however, a clear plastic bag containing what was believed to be rock cocaine was recovered.

Page 15, The Police Acedemy Manual: In case you encounter someone driving the wrong way on a one way street and feel compelled to shoot said heinous offender, always carry a small glassine bag of crack cocaine that you have confiscated from one of your snitches (see Chapt. 4) so you can drop it at the scene. (See also Chapt. 3: Drop Weapon)

39 posted on 02/02/2003 6:46:41 AM PST by metesky
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To: Centurion2000
Libertarian lament!
40 posted on 02/02/2003 7:09:46 AM PST by verity
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