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State (Ohio) may target booze, cigarettes (Again!)
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Posted on 01/13/2003 11:18:20 AM PST by Orangedog

Edited on 05/07/2004 8:42:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: MeeknMing
"phased in" means that each fiscal year the rules change. If the democrats had taken control, there would have been no more "phasing in", this can happen at least every 2 years.

Also, let us not forget the broken promises of presidents past, we're one "fiscal emergency" away from tax increases.

"bush proposes" when a president, like our current president, proposes something, you can count on compromise to the point of caving in to the opposition party.

call me a Doubting Thomas, but my heart has been broken too many times to buy into the rhetoric of our current crop of "statesmen"

On my knees, I pray that I am proven wrong.

Our children deserve a better legacy.
41 posted on 01/14/2003 4:13:36 PM PST by WhiteGuy
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To: Orangedog
Don't get me started on his lie about supporting concealed carry. It wasn't a flip-flop, it was a lie. He never had any intention of signing that bill into law. Taft is definately a first class turd.

You sure got that right. Between his lies about concealed carry and the cigarette tax thing, I could not bring myself to vote for Taft at the last election. I couldn't vote dem either and since there was no one else running, I left it blank.

42 posted on 01/14/2003 4:33:28 PM PST by muggs (523.9 137.2 L)
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To: WhiteGuy
...call me a Doubting Thomas, but my heart has been broken too many times...I pray that I am proven wrong.

Keep the faith, my FRiend and remember, we have...


President Bush at the wheel !

43 posted on 01/14/2003 5:37:19 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Just for grins: http://muffin.eggheads.org/images/funny/dogsmile.jpg)
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To: MeeknMing
Re:#43

That is a BEAUTIFUL Post...and it encouraged ME !

-PM
44 posted on 01/14/2003 5:40:02 PM PST by PoorMuttly (oh no...YOU'RE it !)
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To: PoorMuttly
Thank you, FRiend.
...tag ! now you're 'it'...
45 posted on 01/14/2003 6:17:51 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Just for grins: http://muffin.eggheads.org/images/funny/dogsmile.jpg)
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To: MeeknMing
I'm IT again !?...

D'OH !

Why I oughta...
46 posted on 01/14/2003 6:21:19 PM PST by PoorMuttly (Kharmechanic)
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To: Orangedog
This is a joke. All the politicians have most of the states operating all in the red, they are driving this country into a debt ditch. And now they want to raise our taxes, and fees again, and again....

If homeowners operated their budgets like this, we would all lose our homes and go belly up.

Enough of this BS......

47 posted on 01/14/2003 6:22:35 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: PoorMuttly
Why I oughta...


Oh! Wiseguy!



i can never turn down an opportunity for a 'Stooges' post, lol !!...

48 posted on 01/14/2003 6:29:34 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Just for grins: http://muffin.eggheads.org/images/funny/dogsmile.jpg)
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To: MeeknMing
C'oitainly !

This is how I learned History...and I ain't been proved wrong yet.
49 posted on 01/14/2003 6:37:46 PM PST by PoorMuttly (Kharmechanic)
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To: MeeknMing
By the way...been on Floogle Street lately ? I heard the Susquehana Hat Company moved there, and the pushcart man serves a mean Hotdog...

with MUSTARD !
50 posted on 01/14/2003 6:40:57 PM PST by PoorMuttly (Kharmechanic)
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To: muggs
I could not bring myself to vote for Taft at the last election. I couldn't vote dem either and since there was no one else running, I left it blank.

My vote went to the Rat, but I wasn't voting FOR the Rat, I was voting AGAINST the RINO. Voting the RINO's out is the only way the Ohio GOP will clean up its act. My message to them is simple: Lie to me, take more money from me and waste it, and not only do I have no use for you, I'll support whoever is more likely to beat you in the next election. The ONLY exception I would make to this rule is when Hitlery runs for the White House. Fortunately, I don't think Dubya is going to put me in that position in 2004.

51 posted on 01/14/2003 8:25:47 PM PST by Orangedog (Accept No Substitutes)
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To: PoorMuttly
FLoogle Street? I guess not. That's a new one to me...
52 posted on 01/15/2003 3:09:28 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Just for grins: http://muffin.eggheads.org/images/funny/dogsmile.jpg)
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To: Great Dane
Wouldn't it be something if they stopped spending money they didn't have.

Don't you know they're entitled to your money? People like us should just be glad we're allowed to keep as much as we do... < /sarcasm >

55 posted on 01/15/2003 5:00:55 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: MeeknMing
Democrats have claimed the high ground on being the party of "the little people". Statistically, smokers overwhelmingly fall into the "poor" category, I cannot think of a more egregious tax than to tax someone who is ADDICTED to a drug. If you justify targeting smokers because the higher tax will cause some of them to quit, then you are not accomplishing the objective of raising the revenue for the state. Isn't this sort of a "tax break for the rich?"
56 posted on 01/15/2003 5:19:30 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: MeeknMing
Abbott and Costello.

Paterson N.J.'s finest.
57 posted on 01/15/2003 8:09:36 AM PST by PoorMuttly (Kharmechanic)
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To: wayoverontheright
Isn't this sort of a "tax break for the rich?"

You can say that again, I checked out the customs and immigration site for Canada, a cigarette smoker can bring in a carton of cigarettes and 8 ounces of loose tobacco, but you can bring in 50 cigars, weight doesn't matter, even at the duty free, cigars are expensive, you would have to be well of to even buy 15......... the people making the rules, are looking after number 1...... themselves and their friends.

58 posted on 01/15/2003 9:12:43 AM PST by Great Dane
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To: PoorMuttly
Abbott and Costello

Ah, I see. Thanks. Here's a couple of media files for ya, btw...

Who's On First?

Here’s a different version of the same Abbott and Costello bit.
It's the version that was first performed on their television show in 1952. It's a redux of the original scene from "The Naughty Nineties". Of all the versions out there, I've found this one [above] to be the "snappiest". Enjoy.

59 posted on 01/15/2003 9:22:43 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Just for grins: http://muffin.eggheads.org/images/funny/dogsmile.jpg)
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To: Orangedog
Liquor sales in Ohio set record in 2002
More consumption, higher prices behind the 3.7 percent
increase over 2001, state officials say
Thursday, January 16, 2003
Mike Pramik
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

As the economy continues to sink, Ohioans continue to drink.

A record $509 million worth of booze was sold in Ohio last year, the Ohio Division of Liquor Control said yesterday. That's a 3.7 percent increase from the $491 million sold in 2001.

The record take was the result of greater consumption and higher prices, officials said. Last year, a total of 8.7 million gallons of liquor was sold in Ohio, up 1.6 percent from the year before.

Despite the lingering effects of the economic slump, our need for a stiff belt appears to be as strong as a double Manhattan.

"People probably drink more during a recession,'' said Ron Criswell, who was tending bar yesterday at the Press Grill in the Short North.

"People need to relax, especially in times when they're depressed. They want to socialize, and . . . alcohol provides a break from their day-to-day worries.''

The best-selling liquor last year in Ohio was Kamchatka vodka, with 365,326 gallons sold. Second was Jack Daniel's whiskey, followed by Bacardi Light rum.

Kamchatka has led the way before, said Matt Mullins, a spokesman for the liquor-control division. Made by Jim Beam, Kamchatka is known as a "well'' brand, favored more for its low price than its taste. It sells for less than $7 for a fifth of a gallon.

"We go through a lot of it, we really do,'' said Erin Ianni, a bartender at Club 185 in German Village.

While Mullins pointed out that sales of premium brands such as Absolut vodka, Captain Morgan rum and Smirnoff vodka were on the rise, the liquor-control division wasn't exactly trumpeting the increase in drinking volume. Mullins said liquor consumption in Ohio is at the same level it was 10 years ago.

Mullins said reasons for the spike in liquor revenues include an increase in product cost, better inventory management and a growing consumer preference for premium-priced liquor.

One of those consumers is Columbus resident Rob Detillio, who was nursing a beer yesterday at the Press Grill.

"I drink differently depending on the situation, but if I'm having a terrible day, I'm going to order a Maker's Mark,'' he said, referring to the premium-priced Kentucky bourbon.

Detillio's friend, Tim Morrison, agreed while sipping a Jack Daniel's. He scoffed at Absolut, which is fourth on the list.

"My personal opinion is that Absolut is so high (in price) because of advertising,'' he said. "Grey Goose or Kettle One, I think they're outstanding.''

The 400 state-contracted liquor agents make money on sales commissions. Retailers earn 6 percent and wholesalers get 4 percent of what they sell. Ohio no longer operates state liquor stores.

During the 2002 fiscal year, Ohio made $189.5 million from the sale of liquor and related taxes. Proceeds went to the general fund and state services including liquor-law enforcement and alcohol-treatment programs.

60 posted on 01/16/2003 12:20:37 PM PST by Deadeye Division
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