South Dakota Suspicions [Vote fraud]

National Review Online ^ | November 7, 2002 | Byron York

[xsysmgr]

Looks like Johnson copied a page out of the tactics book of another Johnson: "Landslide" Lyndon.

[mgc1122]

Rats cannot win an honest election. Period. Time to charge some of these people under the RICO statutes for conspiracy IMO.

[coramdeo]

I'm from Illinois, so nothing strikes me as unusual about this. In a close election, the Democrats hold back a few precincts, stuff in enough votes to make the difference, and count them at the very end to make sure you have the right outcome. Golly jeepers, this is Election Stealing 101.

[demlosers]

Yeah, it appears to be a classic ballot stuff operation.

[coramdeo]

Unless I'm mistaken, the conditions Thune put on seeking a recount have already been met - isn't a Democratic operative cooling her heels in the Big House right now charged with voter registration fraud? And didn't I read in something on FR that she was refusing to take the fall, instead insisting that the state Dem party was fully aware of what she was doing? Anyone have a link to that?

[Credo]

There's been a lot of discussion on vote fraud in SD. Essentially, the democrats do business this way. It must be stopped. This is a good article.

[Coop]

Nice analysis of how much yesterday morning's vote count smelled. Especially note Daschle's Shannon County performance during a landslide win relative to Johnson's in an extremely tight race. I hope the GOP pushes hard on this, but we'll see what happens.

[demlosers]

didn't I read in something on FR that she was refusing to take the fall, instead insisting that the state Dem party was fully aware of what she was doing? Anyone have a link to that?

Shouldn't that be enough to get Ashcroft to send the FBI to investigate??

[KeyBored]

"I hope the GOP pushes hard on this, but we'll see what happens.'

This might just be a good indicator (albeit an early one) of just what the GOP is going to do with it's historic mandate.

Is it going to do what is right by SERIOUSLY looking into this obvious vote fraud? Stand up to the 'crats? Risk p***ing off liberals and their propaganda arm AKA PeterDanTom?

Or is it just going to roll over, as it has in the past.

You're right - we shall see.

[Stefan Stackhouse]

NEVER allow the most overwhelmingly Democrat precincts be the LAST to report their results. NEVER!

[PatrioticAmerican]

BTTT

[hchutch]

They have been investigating SINCE OCTOBER.

York is raising a number of the points I have - which leads me to think the GOP will CONDITIONALLY seat Johnson pending the results of the investigation. The people will believe the FBI over either the RNC or DNC in a matter like this.

[samtheman]

Republicans want to be careful in the course they choose. They have already won the Senate, and they do not want to embroil the party in a long, acrimonious fight over a contest that will not affect the balance of power in Washington.

This issue is bigger than who controls the Senate. This is about Democracy in America. If election-fraud is allowed to stand when "it doesn't matter that much", it will grow like a cancer that will destroy our political system and give us a one-party dictatorship.

[Sender]

It may be more difficult to investigate voter fraud if, say, 2000 of those Johnson votes come from the native american community. For instance, do the voters on the reservation all have social security numbers or any other uniquely identifying ID so that we can be absolutely sure that 2000 of them actually voted?

[LurkerNoMore!]

Another interesting tidbit here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784111/posts

[KC Burke]

You are both on target. This is the exact tactic used by LBJ in stealing his Senatorial election -- infamous Ballot Box 13.

Like that instance, a ethnic minority, remote community, had the population manipulated, the data falsified and the iron fist of machine politics keeping the minority on the plantation utilized to hold stuffed ballots back to the last minute.

Sure, in our more sophisticated age, the niceities and forms will be followed more closely. But this is the Daschle Machine's tactic -- not traceable, not spelled out, but understood and executed.

[KC Burke]

What do you hear about this issue, big guy?

[Credo]

The problem is if Johnson is seated it's going to take an investigation and expulsion to unseat him. Even if the exposure forces him to resign, SD has to go through the rigamarole of special elections etc.

The quicker the fraud is exposed, the better. Do it before Johnson is certified. Can a governor/sec state withdraw their certification before the Senator is seated?

[LurkerNoMore!]

Oops. I should have added Reply #10 & #17 to above link.

[demlosers]

Sure, in our more sophisticated age, the niceities and forms will be followed more closely. But this is the Daschle Machine's tactic -- not traceable, not spelled out, but understood and executed.

If it's not traceable, we can only hope for somebody on the inside to squeal. That not too promising.