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South Dakota Suspicions [Vote fraud]
National Review Online ^ | November 7, 2002 | Byron York

Posted on 11/07/2002 6:48:22 AM PST by xsysmgr

The very last precincts to be counted killed the hopes of GOP Senate candidate John Thune. Was something funny going on?

Today a team of Republican election experts is in South Dakota, looking into the circumstances of Democratic Sen. Tim Johnson's extraordinarily narrow, last-minute victory over Republican candidate John Thune.

While it is certainly possible that there were no significant irregularities involved in the voting, some Republicans are puzzled by the way the vote-counting unfolded. Early Wednesday morning, with 99.65 percent of South Dakota's precincts reporting, Thune held a narrow lead over Johnson. It was only when the last three precincts (out of a total of 844) were counted that Johnson finally edged ahead. What has made some Republicans suspicious is that those final precincts were located in a southwestern county that was in the news for allegations of voting fraud in the weeks leading up to the election.

MINUTE BY MINUTE
For most of Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, the election returns looked promising for Thune. At 1:32 A.M. EST on Wednesday, an Associated Press report showed Thune had 134,904 votes to Johnson's 132,648 with 648, or 77 percent, of the state's precincts reporting.

At 2.47 A.M., the AP issued another report, this one showing Thune with 153,952 votes to Johnson's 149,789, with 736, or 87 percent, of precincts reporting — a lead of more than 4,000 votes.

At 3:41 A.M., Thune was up 158,331 to 154,602, with 776, or 92 percent, of precincts reporting.

At some point after that, Thune's lead began to shrink. By 6:38 A.M., with 838, or 99.3 percent, of the state's 844 precincts reporting, Thune led Johnson by 166,588 to 165,639 votes. It was close, but Thune was still in the lead by nearly 1,000 votes with just six precincts left to count.

Then the lead narrowed dramatically. By 8:28 A.M., Thune had 166,747 votes to Johnson's 166,559, with 841, or 99.65 percent, of the 844 precincts reporting. Thune was up by just 188 votes with three precincts left to count.

Those last precincts killed Thune's chances to win. At 9:21 A.M., with 843 of 844 precincts reporting, Thune trailed Johnson, 166,707 to 167,252.

Finally, at 10:22 A.M., the last precinct was counted and reported. Thune trailed Johnson 166,954 to 167,481 — a margin of 527 votes. Johnson claimed victory.

It was a stunning finish to a race that was clearly tight but appeared for much of the night to be in Thune's hands. Somewhere in the last five precincts, Thune's Senate hopes disappeared.

QUESTIONABLE PRACTICES
The vote counting has attracted the attention of Republicans because the precincts that defeated Thune — the ones that were counted last — were in Shannon County, on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. The county has been the target of intensive get-out-the-vote efforts by Democrats and has reported the largest gain in registrations, 17 percent, of any county in the state. In recent weeks, federal and local authorities have been investigating allegations of fraudulent voting practices related to some of those new voters (along with some in other counties around the state).

In mid-October, the Shannon County auditor said one in ten of the county's new registrations was under investigation for possible irregularities. On October 20, the Sioux Falls Argus Leader reported that, "Auditors in 10 counties, all but one adjoining a reservation, have forwarded questionable registration forms or absentee ballot requests to the sheriff or state's attorney for investigation. Of the nearly 400 questionable documents discovered by the auditors, 338 came from Shannon and Pennington counties, where the two investigations into possible voter fraud are under way."

Shannon County went heavily for Johnson — out of 3,118 votes cast, 2,856, or about 92 percent, went to Johnson, while 248 went to Thune (a third-party candidate received 14 votes). That percentage, in itself, might not be particularly unusual; Native Americans in South Dakota vote heavily Democratic, and Johnson is popular with Native Americans. But one thing that has aroused Republican curiosity is the significant increase in the number of votes cast in Shannon County since the last mid-term election, in 1998, in which Sen. Tom Daschle won reelection.

In 1998, there were just 1,559 votes cast in Shannon (that is precisely half the votes cast this year — a statistical nicety that might signify nothing, but might still catch Republican eyes). Of the 1998 total, 1,228 went to Daschle and 239 went to Republican Ron Schmidt (a third-party candidate won 92 votes).

What some Republicans find interesting about the numbers is that the popular Daschle, who won in a landslide statewide, won just 79 percent of the votes in Shannon County — significantly less than Johnson won this year — while Schmidt, who lost by a huge margin in 1998, received about the same number of votes that the well-known Thune received this year. Even though the total number of voters in Shannon County has gone up dramatically, it appears that virtually none of them chose Thune.

The situation might be completely attributable to get-out-the-vote efforts; 17,000 new voters were signed up statewide in recent months, and Democrats were particularly aggressive in Shannon County and on the state's other Indian reservations. But Republicans signed up new voters, too, and now they want to have a look at the county's voting patterns.

Finally, the GOP wants to know more about the timing of the Shannon County returns. Although nothing is set in stone, some observers say it is not usually the pattern in statewide elections for Shannon County returns to be the last counted. Given the fact that the county provided Johnson's winning margin, and given the earlier allegations of corruption, Republicans want to know why Shannon was so late this time.

WHAT TO DO?
At this moment, the South Dakota secretary of state's office is finishing its official canvass of the election. That process in effect rechecks everyone's math and comes up with a final vote total for all the races. It is not designed to uncover voter irregularities.

According to state law, Thune is entitled to ask for a recount. On Wednesday, he released a carefully worded statement that suggested he might choose to do so. "If there is a change in the numbers or evidence of irregularities after the official election canvass, I will look at pursuing the next step in the process, which is a formal recount," Thune said:

However, I do not wish to put the people of South Dakota through this process unless it is absolutely necessary. Therefore, if there is no change in the vote totals or any irregularities after the official canvass, we will pursue no further action and the results will stand...No one would be happier than I to see those numbers change as the process continues. However, if the numbers stand, I am prepared to accept the outcome and know that my supporters and all those who have stood with me during this process will accept the outcome as well.

Speaking publicly later on Wednesday, Thune seemed inclined to let the matter drop after the canvass. At this point, it is simply not clear whether he will ask for a recount or take any other action.

Republicans want to be careful in the course they choose. They have already won the Senate, and they do not want to embroil the party in a long, acrimonious fight over a contest that will not affect the balance of power in Washington. In addition, they do not want to embark on a Democratic-style legal battle if there is no solid evidence of fraud. But at this point, they want to know what happened. The circumstances of Johnson's last-minute comeback look a little odd, and Republicans want to learn the story behind the numbers.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: votefraud
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Looks like Johnson copied a page out of the tactics book of another Johnson: "Landslide" Lyndon.
1 posted on 11/07/2002 6:48:22 AM PST by xsysmgr
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To: xsysmgr
Rats cannot win an honest election. Period. Time to charge some of these people under the RICO statutes for conspiracy IMO.
2 posted on 11/07/2002 6:54:16 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: xsysmgr
I'm from Illinois, so nothing strikes me as unusual about this. In a close election, the Democrats hold back a few precincts, stuff in enough votes to make the difference, and count them at the very end to make sure you have the right outcome. Golly jeepers, this is Election Stealing 101.
3 posted on 11/07/2002 6:55:01 AM PST by coramdeo
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To: coramdeo
Yeah, it appears to be a classic ballot stuff operation.

4 posted on 11/07/2002 6:57:48 AM PST by demlosers
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To: xsysmgr
Unless I'm mistaken, the conditions Thune put on seeking a recount have already been met - isn't a Democratic operative cooling her heels in the Big House right now charged with voter registration fraud? And didn't I read in something on FR that she was refusing to take the fall, instead insisting that the state Dem party was fully aware of what she was doing? Anyone have a link to that?
5 posted on 11/07/2002 7:03:06 AM PST by coramdeo
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To: demlosers; Sister Rose
There's been a lot of discussion on vote fraud in SD. Essentially, the democrats do business this way. It must be stopped. This is a good article.
6 posted on 11/07/2002 7:04:33 AM PST by Credo
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To: Torie; KQQL; BlackRazor; IGOTMINE; eureka!; Dales; patton; frmrda; PhiKapMom
Nice analysis of how much yesterday morning's vote count smelled. Especially note Daschle's Shannon County performance during a landslide win relative to Johnson's in an extremely tight race. I hope the GOP pushes hard on this, but we'll see what happens.
7 posted on 11/07/2002 7:10:52 AM PST by Coop
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To: coramdeo
didn't I read in something on FR that she was refusing to take the fall, instead insisting that the state Dem party was fully aware of what she was doing? Anyone have a link to that?

Shouldn't that be enough to get Ashcroft to send the FBI to investigate??

8 posted on 11/07/2002 7:12:39 AM PST by demlosers
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To: Coop
"I hope the GOP pushes hard on this, but we'll see what happens.'

This might just be a good indicator (albeit an early one) of just what the GOP is going to do with it's historic mandate.

Is it going to do what is right by SERIOUSLY looking into this obvious vote fraud? Stand up to the 'crats? Risk p***ing off liberals and their propaganda arm AKA PeterDanTom?

Or is it just going to roll over, as it has in the past.

You're right - we shall see.

9 posted on 11/07/2002 7:20:04 AM PST by KeyBored
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To: xsysmgr
NEVER allow the most overwhelmingly Democrat precincts be the LAST to report their results. NEVER!
10 posted on 11/07/2002 7:22:56 AM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: xsysmgr
BTTT
11 posted on 11/07/2002 7:24:52 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: demlosers; Congressman Billybob
They have been investigating SINCE OCTOBER.

York is raising a number of the points I have - which leads me to think the GOP will CONDITIONALLY seat Johnson pending the results of the investigation. The people will believe the FBI over either the RNC or DNC in a matter like this.
12 posted on 11/07/2002 7:27:49 AM PST by hchutch
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To: xsysmgr
Republicans want to be careful in the course they choose. They have already won the Senate, and they do not want to embroil the party in a long, acrimonious fight over a contest that will not affect the balance of power in Washington.

This issue is bigger than who controls the Senate. This is about Democracy in America. If election-fraud is allowed to stand when "it doesn't matter that much", it will grow like a cancer that will destroy our political system and give us a one-party dictatorship.

13 posted on 11/07/2002 7:32:38 AM PST by samtheman
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To: xsysmgr
It may be more difficult to investigate voter fraud if, say, 2000 of those Johnson votes come from the native american community. For instance, do the voters on the reservation all have social security numbers or any other uniquely identifying ID so that we can be absolutely sure that 2000 of them actually voted?
14 posted on 11/07/2002 7:33:47 AM PST by Sender
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To: xsysmgr
Another interesting tidbit here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784111/posts
15 posted on 11/07/2002 7:34:03 AM PST by LurkerNoMore!
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To: coramdeo; xsysmgr; ImpBill
You are both on target. This is the exact tactic used by LBJ in stealing his Senatorial election -- infamous Ballot Box 13.

Like that instance, a ethnic minority, remote community, had the population manipulated, the data falsified and the iron fist of machine politics keeping the minority on the plantation utilized to hold stuffed ballots back to the last minute.

Sure, in our more sophisticated age, the niceities and forms will be followed more closely. But this is the Daschle Machine's tactic -- not traceable, not spelled out, but understood and executed.

16 posted on 11/07/2002 7:34:29 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Jim Robinson
What do you hear about this issue, big guy?
17 posted on 11/07/2002 7:35:37 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: hchutch
The problem is if Johnson is seated it's going to take an investigation and expulsion to unseat him. Even if the exposure forces him to resign, SD has to go through the rigamarole of special elections etc.

The quicker the fraud is exposed, the better. Do it before Johnson is certified. Can a governor/sec state withdraw their certification before the Senator is seated?

18 posted on 11/07/2002 7:35:46 AM PST by Credo
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Oops. I should have added Reply #10 & #17 to above link.
19 posted on 11/07/2002 7:35:56 AM PST by LurkerNoMore!
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To: KC Burke
Sure, in our more sophisticated age, the niceities and forms will be followed more closely. But this is the Daschle Machine's tactic -- not traceable, not spelled out, but understood and executed.

If it's not traceable, we can only hope for somebody on the inside to squeal. That not too promising.

20 posted on 11/07/2002 7:42:37 AM PST by demlosers
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