18 new voting machines go missing in Broward

Sun -Sentinal ^ | 10/17/02 | Buddy Nevins and Scott Wyman

[JasonC]

Correct. Here is how it would work. Notice where they say -

"Cotter predicted the machines would be found "in somebody's trunk or someplace's closet."

Those will be machines "returned" that were actually used in the election, that real voters entered their votes on. They will not be counted.

"County workers will pick them up immediately after polls close and deliver them to the election warehouse."

So the continuity of control depends on moving "county workers". Simple enough. Some machines go into the back of somebody's SUV and other ones come out. Party workers have "voted" on the machines that come out - early and often. The non-returned machines then show up as the "found" ones.

Paperwork detailing which machine came from which precinct when will be "messed up", have "bureaucratic errors", which will be "straightened out" by oh-so conscientious county workers pretending exasperation.

Voila, the voters don't get to vote "the wrong way", and instead party activists "vote for them", the "right way".

[Digger]

You girlfriend needs to contact FOX & get on O'Reilly or H&C. This needs to be exposed on a national level. This is big time news.

[annieokie]

Maybe selling on EBAY, with all the R's removed.

[Digger]

Come on, you don't think the Pubbies would allow any part of cleaning up an election. That means that they would have to face the media & stand tall. You know anybody in that party that would do that?

[myself6]

Hmmmm.....

Get your hands on the equipment and figure a way to squeeze more Democrat votes out of it.

This stuff is electronic; it can be "modified" to do whatever you wish. I would suggest that the GOP go in and low-level format every one of those hard drives BEFORE the election to ensure nothing has been placed on them. I would also suggest obtaining scats from the manufacturer including every ic chip, diode, transistor in the original design.

Wireless packet sniffers set up in the vicinity of the devices would be nice.(anyone with a laptop can do this)Software can be downloaded or purchased to quickly scan for wireless networks. Helpful in tracking and documenting wireless tampering techniques.

I could go on for quite some time regarding all the things that could be done to undermine the integrity of this voting machine. What it really comes down to is dedicated people getting involved and guarding those machines from the factory floor to the day they destroy it as a relic decades later.

Oh, How about the cards that I assume store and run the software for the device? Are they all accounted for? Wouldnt be to hard to modify software, reburn or replace a chip, swap out the entire device. (This is getting scary)

[NautiNurse]

Outrageous! Oliphant should be arrested immediately and interrogated brutally. Off with her head!

I can't understand why anyone is crying about the money at this point. $54,000 is only half of Oliphant's annual salary. I would imagine her office furniture and trimmings cost at least as much.

[FreeTally]

No, I can't say that I expect them to either.

[cyncooper]

Come on, you don't think the Pubbies would allow any part of cleaning up an election. That means that they would have to face the media & stand tall. You know anybody in that party that would do that?

You may not be aware of the investigation going on in South Dakota. It seems to me the Justice Department is investigating potential fraud in several states.

Further, they are keeping an eye on Florida and this "missing machines" story came from somewhere.

I'll admit, I'd like to see some prosecutions. But to say the republicans would look the other way is unsubstantiated, imo.

[FlaFreedom]

History is replete with electoral abuses by the Democrats dating to Tammany Hall or earlier. Chicago and St Louis are modern day examples, to say nothing of the current illegal ballots showing up in S.D....All Democrats. Please show me where the same is true for Republicans.

[OrioleFan]

They're just gonna have to have Jimmy Carter show up with Nelson Mandela and Kofi Annan to monitor the vote in Broward this year </sarcasm off>

[FlaFreedom]

Why not Saddam...Now there is a guy who knows how to run an election.....

[Alex Murphy]

Check the Atlantic. Chances are someone mistook them for butterfly-ballot machines and tossed them in.

[11th Earl of Mar]

And to think that this county nearly cost Bush his rightful election. Sheesh! Throw them all in jail.

[Dutchgirl]

"Officials for the county and Election Systems & Software, the machines' manufacturer, said the machines would be of little value to anyone who finds them." Unless they were interested in voter fraud. "Because their value is largely limited to voting, Cotter thinks the machines have been misplaced."

I can't beleive these comments coming on the same day as an article stating that over $1 Billion has been spent on advertising in this election.

Let's see, I guess it depends on how one defines value. ... Manipulating election so that pro-union/ trial lawyer wins governorship. $54,000.

Protection of procecss for democratically elected republic? Priceless.

[SerpentDove]

>>What a bunch of frickin' incompetents. I'd say it's time to replace the entire elections board. They can't do anything right.<<

Maybe not incompetence. Maybe they're planning outright voter fraud (again).

Remember the Vote-A-Matic found in that Democrat's trunk?

Incompetence would be my last guess.

[Fracas]

Thanks for the ping.

I think it's important to note that while there's always been a 'whole lotta corrrrruption goin' on here' (thanks, Rush), there is a major difference now. In the past, an attempt was made to keep this under wraps. They are now careless (SD), in-your-face confrontational (NJ), bold (FL) and matter-of-fact (college students in MN).

This smacks of Clinton & McAuliffe....the bigger the lie, the greater the fraud, the more blatant the hypocrisy, the more you dare - double dare - the opposition to say something about it.

While it gets tiresome to continue ranting about the media, this is the ace in the hole of the Dems in every election cycle. If - or when - the Republicans complain or point out the graft and corruption, the media will rush to find an indiscretion or an example of corruption by a Republican. This will then be followed by a smug assertion: they all do it, so why are the mean Republicans picking on the Democrats?

They continue to do this because it works.

It is important that Republicans - conservative, moderate or liberal - put aside their differences and get rid of the RATS.... starting with Clinton & McAuliffe.

Boycott MSNBC - they'll soon be defunct. Boycott CNN - they're marginalized at best. Few here pay any attention to the big 3 networks - keep it up.

Sen. Inhofe was on Fox & Friends this morning and did a fantastic job talking about North Korea. Send him a note and thank him for being blunt and tough. Don't just complain; when you see an elected official do something good, let them know you appreciate it. Remember the bees & honey adage.

The new RNC has developed a spine - but they need our help. We need to put FEET ON THE GROUND ... not just money in the coffers. What the elected officials can't complain about - we can. Write, phone and fax the media - every day - until they're sick of hearing from us.

[NautiNurse]

Yes, this deserves national attention--including DOJ intervention--before November 5.

[Mo1]

"We don't know where they are. I don't think anyone does at this point," said Joseph Cotter, who was hired to fix the problems highlighted by the chaotic primary.

Somehow I have this feeling they will show up soon .. either that or someone is trying figure out how they can rig the new machines

[NautiNurse]

I have this feeling they will show up soon

I pray that you are right...but I have my doubts

[Mo1]

I pray that you are right

I hope I'm wrong .. we don't want those machines showing up .. especially on election day ..

IMO there is a reason these machines disappeared