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To: Just another Joe
um, that wasnt "foggy" it was "foggie" as in, elderly. not young. sans spring, spring chicken. ill have you know i dont take anything from anyone. i earn my keep and keep my keep. i give my parents my money for my car, i buy my clothes, my food. only things i dont pay for are utilities (im 18 and in college, no need to leave) and college, which i EARNED scholarship for. i dont wanna pay for your cancre-ridden, bed-wetting, useless body to have a little glimmer of life when others your age are vital and walking. you may pay as much tax percent-wise, but you cost us more by having paid smoke breaks, making you not spend as much time working as the rest of us. and then, once you're to sick to work, you'll get us again by laying in a bed and letting dear ol' Uncle Sam give you bed time manner well into your 60's (average age of a non-smoker? 80+) you wanna actually try to convince me that smoking is ok? go ahead. you want to convince me that by expressing support one way or another on a politcal issue makes me not a conservative? bullshit. its all about us expressing our concerns to the govnt. and my concern is that your shrivled lungs will cause me and my kids on down the road, to have asthma, or allergies. my dad quit smoking once he figured out it wasnt safe. he stopped doing it a few months before i was born. i talk to my dad because i love him, and he has givin me more than enough info to not ever be as easly swayed as you were to remain a smoker. you would never have thought of smoking if it werent for someone around you doing it. and you, being weak minded and weak willed, followed like a little sheep. only sheep are innocent, more like a lemming, falling off a pit. i know how to control my life, i know how to handle myslef, and i dont let a few "friends" pressure me into something wrong. you could live to be as wise as this teen, if youd only not be so... liberal minded.
60 posted on 10/17/2002 11:09:10 AM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha
um, that wasnt "foggy" it was "foggie" as in, elderly.

Number 1. - I knew what you were talking about. The question mark was for spelling. My reference to "foggy" was a play on words that you, apparently, did not catch.

i dont wanna pay for your cancre-ridden, bed-wetting, useless body to have a little glimmer of life when others your age are vital and walking. you may pay as much tax percent-wise, but you cost us more by having paid smoke breaks, making you not spend as much time working as the rest of us. and then, once you're to sick to work, you'll get us again by laying in a bed and letting dear ol' Uncle Sam give you bed time manner well into your 60's (average age of a non-smoker? 80+) you wanna actually try to convince me that smoking is ok? go ahead. you want to convince me that by expressing support one way or another on a politcal issue makes me not a conservative? bullshit. its all about us expressing our concerns to the govnt. and my concern is that your shrivled lungs will cause me and my kids on down the road, to have asthma, or allergies. my dad quit smoking once he figured out it wasnt safe. he stopped doing it a few months before i was born. i talk to my dad because i love him, and he has givin me more than enough info to not ever be as easly swayed as you were to remain a smoker. you would never have thought of smoking if it werent for someone around you doing it. and you, being weak minded and weak willed, followed like a little sheep. only sheep are innocent, more like a lemming, falling off a pit. i know how to control my life, i know how to handle myslef, and i dont let a few "friends" pressure me into something wrong. you could live to be as wise as this teen, if youd only not be so... liberal minded.

Number 2. - In other words, you are a product of the NEA ridden public school system. You can't capitalize, you can't spell, you can't puncuate, and yet you received a scholarship to a college.
I'm glad that you "earn your keep", however I sincerely doubt if you "keep your keep". If you are employed by a business you pay taxes which go to feed, clothe, and house so many worthless lazy people that you couldn't count them all.
As for you paying for me in my old age - I've already put more money into the system than I'll EVER be able to take out in my old age, so don't give me any cr@p about you paying for my old age.
It's a certified fact that as a whole, smokers put more into the system than they ever take out.
As for smoke breaks - I take my breaks just like everyone else. If I decide to have a smoke on my break that's MY business.
Don't even try to quote me ages about smokers and nonsmokers or I'll ask you to back up your facts.
No I DON'T want to try to convince you that smoking is completely SAFE but it damn sure should be OK to smoke in a private business as long as the owner doesn't object.
HOW IN H#LL are MY lungs going to give you or your kids asthma or allergies? Unless you're one of my descendants (I don't think so) MY lungs can't do a thing to you and yours.
If your dad wanted to quit I'm glad for your dad that he quit. That doesn't mean I can't quit. It means I don't WANT to quit. I get enjoyment from smoking a cigarette/cigar. Anything you get enjoyment from that you don't WANT to quit doing?
As for being liberal minded - I was once like you. Young, stubborn, unwilling to listen to any voice I didn't recognize, even if it was just trying to give me facts and not advice on living my life. I grew out of it. Hopefully you will too.

P.S. - I never said that you weren't a conservative just because we disagree on a subject. You're the one calling ME a liberal.
I DO reserve the right to disagree.

64 posted on 10/17/2002 11:36:06 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: MacDorcha
I think both you and I agree that smoking is harmful to one's health-like many other perfectly legal activities. But do you think the government should be permitted to ban smoking on private property?

If I own a restaurant, and I want to allow smoking, why should you or anyone else be able to force me to do otherwise? I'm not forcing anyone to come into my restaurant. Anyone who eats there realizes that there will be cigarette smoke in my restaurant, and so they choose of their own free will to risk their health. No one's rights are being violated. Why does the government have to be involved?

67 posted on 10/17/2002 1:23:31 PM PDT by timm22
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To: MacDorcha
um, that wasnt "foggy" it was "foggie" as in, elderly

Funny that you mention elderly since tobacco use tends to inhibit onset of Parkinson and Alzheimer. Those diseases can make old people foggy.

68 posted on 10/17/2002 1:46:28 PM PDT by A. Pole
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