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Smoke-free bars & clubs? Yes
NY Daily ^ | 10/10/02 | JOSEPH W. CHERNER

Posted on 10/10/2002 9:04:32 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Bar and restaurant employes are forced to inhale tobacco smoke every day to keep their jobs. According to studies by the city Health Department, secondhand smoke kills more than 1,000 New Yorkers each year. A smoky bar can have 40 times more air pollution than the Holland Tunnel at rush hour. Today, the City Council will hear testimony on Mayor Bloomberg's proposal to make all city workplaces smoke-free. Testimony supporting the bill, much like letters sent through smokefree.org to public officials, will make it clear that the health of bar and restaurant employees is just as important as the health of everyone else.

One pregnant member of Bar and Restaurant Employees Advocating Together for a Healthy Environment - BREATHE - writes: "I have been a bartender at a restaurant for the past two years. During the course of working there, I discovered that I was two months pregnant. I immediately stopped working, but my unborn child had been exposed to two months of smoke. I have never smoked a day in my life, and I only pray that this does not have a negative effect on my baby."

One person who has worked for 20 years as a waiter and bartender asks, "What did I do that is so wrong that I must decide between having a decent-paying job that I enjoy and substantially increasing my risk of cancer and lung disease? All I want is the same right to a safe, smoke-free workplace that millions of other workers enjoy. People who work in bars, restaurants and nightclubs ... deserve a safe, healthy, smoke-free workplace, too."

The city's biggest labor unions, from 1199 to the United Federation of Teachers, and the fire officers' union and the transport workers' union, support smoke-free workplace legislation for all New York City workers.

The president of Local 802, Associated Musicians of Greater New York, which represents 10,000 professional musicians who often work in smoky restaurants, bars and clubs, writes, "The health of all workers is equally important. No one should be allowed to make someone else sick. Unfortunately, most of our members have the choice of either working in a smoke-filled room or not working at all."

These people are right. Bartenders, waiters and musicians deserve the same right to a safe, smoke-free workplace that everyone else won long ago. No worker should have to breathe something that causes cancer to hold a job or have to give up a job to prevent getting sick.

Clean indoor air is a basic right to which all workers should be entitled. Let's hope City Council Speaker Gifford Miller (D-Manhattan) backs Bloomberg and supports the Smoke-Free Workplace Act of 2002 for the health of all New Yorkers.


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1 posted on 10/10/2002 9:04:32 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

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2 posted on 10/10/2002 9:04:49 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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"I discovered that I was two months pregnant. I immediately stopped working, but my unborn child had been exposed to two months of smoke. I have never smoked a day in my life, and I only pray that this does not have a negative effect on my baby."

Two whole months of 2nd-hand smoke?!? She may as well abort, this fetus has no chance.

3 posted on 10/10/2002 9:15:16 AM PDT by Grit
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"What did I do that is so wrong that I must decide between having a decent-paying job that I enjoy and substantially increasing my risk of cancer and lung disease? All I want is the same right to a safe, smoke-free workplace that millions of other workers enjoy. People who work in bars, restaurants and nightclubs ... deserve a safe, healthy, smoke-free workplace, too."

Bartenders, waiters and musicians deserve the same right to a safe, smoke-free workplace that everyone else won long ago. No worker should have to breathe something that causes cancer to hold a job or have to give up a job to prevent getting sick.

Good Lord, I hope that none of these people ever have to face a serious issue in their lives. We are now officially a nation of 99% pansies.

"Welcome to TGI Fridays. Smoking? or Non?

4 posted on 10/10/2002 9:23:40 AM PDT by Grit
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
One person who has worked for 20 years as a waiter and bartender asks, "What did I do that is so wrong that I must decide between having a decent-paying job that I enjoy and substantially increasing my risk of cancer and lung disease? All I want is the same right to a safe, smoke-free workplace that millions of other workers enjoy. People who work in bars, restaurants and nightclubs ... deserve a safe, healthy, smoke-free workplace, too."

Everybody has a right to a safe work place, OSHA has regulations for business for every occupation. Over regulation from Government means loss of jobs and business bankruptcy. We have mandatory break rooms away from work place, rest areas with beds and private restrooms. Over regulation in NY will mean less revenue and increased taxes.

This is a legal substance, lets keep it that way or abolish it. I forgot we need the tax money for more regulation.......

5 posted on 10/10/2002 9:27:36 AM PDT by jdontom
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; maxwell; SheLion
More nonsense from NY..........
6 posted on 10/10/2002 9:34:05 AM PDT by jdontom
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I truly hate cigarette smoke anywhere near me. It sets off my alergies, closes up my sinuses, and burns my eyes. There are also a lot of truly rude and inconsiderate smokers that think nothing of others comfort and health -

Yet I firmly believe that it is a business owner's choice weather to allow smoking or not. The government has no authority to make the decision for the business owner.

We as consumers have the right to not do business with an establishment that allows smoking. I personally will not eat in a resteraunt that does not have clearly differentiated smoking/non-smoking sections. This is my choice. The same applies to smokers - they don't have to do business with someone that does not allow smoking.

7 posted on 10/10/2002 9:50:45 AM PDT by TheBattman
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Clean indoor air is a basic right to which all workers should be entitled.

No it isn't. Presumably if this fool wanted to be a coal miner she would be complaining that she had no idea the whole place would be so dusty.

If you don't like smoky bars don't work in them. Feel free to open your own no smoking bar and good luck to you.

8 posted on 10/10/2002 9:53:17 AM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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Barbra streisand music makes me ill. Therefore, it should be illegal to play it in any public place of businesss. I don't care if every else likes it, I must be catered to!
9 posted on 10/10/2002 9:58:56 AM PDT by flashbunny
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About ten years ago, a homeless guy was escorted out of a New Jersey public library because he was filthy and smelled bad.

The homeless guy sued, claiming his rights had been violated.

He won $100 thousand or more.
10 posted on 10/10/2002 10:06:00 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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He won $100 thousand or more.

Bet he ain't homeless no more.

11 posted on 10/10/2002 10:13:11 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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"Barbra streisand music makes me ill. Therefore, it should be illegal to play it in any public place of businesss. I don't care if every else likes it, I must be catered to!"

Warning signs must be placed on elevator doors:

"Toxic Music Played in this Elevator. B.Y.O. Earplugs or use stairway."

This message sponsored by the BBB (Babs Barf Brigade)

12 posted on 10/10/2002 10:23:59 AM PDT by Eastbound
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Bar and restaurant employes are forced to inhale tobacco smoke every day to keep their jobs.

This is as far as I could read (Yes it is the first sentence). Please find for me the article or amendment in the Constitution which enumerates the right to the job you want under the conditions you want. If you can't handle second hand smoke DON'T WORK AT A BAR YOU BLEEPING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, I feel better now.

13 posted on 10/10/2002 10:27:38 AM PDT by thedugal
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To: Grit
No worker should have to breathe something that causes cancer to hold a job or have to give up a job to prevent getting sick.

I want proof that this causes cancer.

Besides the fact if these people don't like the smoke go get a different job,
Jeez the wimp, I like working there. Who the heck gets to like where they work,
I hate having to work, and at times hated my job,
But I could have changed if I wanted to.
my advice is get the bar/restuarant to get better ventilation systems,
blow the smoke out onto the street.
14 posted on 10/10/2002 10:33:00 AM PDT by vin-one
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To: TheBattman
Thank you. We need more folks in this country like you.
15 posted on 10/10/2002 12:21:45 PM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: Max McGarrity
I wonder if anyone has challenged this bunch of rabid special interest nannies for proof of their allegations.
16 posted on 10/10/2002 12:23:57 PM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It's amazing how the ANTI's feel the need to grab numbers out of thin air, the sad thing is, they never get called on it.

Very few musicians are non-smokers.

17 posted on 10/10/2002 12:38:06 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Bar and restaurant employes are forced to inhale tobacco smoke every day to keep their jobs.

Such irrationality. The employee is free to leave. No person is pointing a gun to his head or threatening the employee or holding the employee hostage.

18 posted on 10/10/2002 12:43:27 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Clean indoor air is a basic right to which all workers should be entitled. Let's hope City Council Speaker Gifford Miller (D-Manhattan) backs Bloomberg and supports the Smoke-Free Workplace Act of 2002 for the health of all New Yorkers.

They are entitled to not work for any employer. No employer holds his or her employees hostage. Which is what the above irrational author implies. Politicians and bureaucrats have fraudulently usurped private property rights.

Juxtaposition:

The working-class man has a plan. While his work contributes to his prosperity and benefits society, he wants more prosperity and knows that in order to gain more prosperity for himself he must increase his benefit to society. He is one of the somewhat rare men and women that create a business plan. His plan is to create jobs, for he can't do all the work of the business himself.

His business plan when put into action will create jobs which will increase his employees' prosperity and with all those workers injecting more benefits into the marketplace it enables a more prosperous society.

BUT, there's a problem. Despite the man's honorable business plan that strives to gain more for himself and inject more benefits into society, government -- politicians and bureaucrats -- insist that the man use the government's plan.

The government's plan is overlaid on the businessman's plan and forces regulations, taxes and fees on the businessman's business plan. The government's overlay plan diminishes the businessman's goal of creating more jobs and injecting more values into society for which he is rightfully compensated with increased prosperity for himself.

Politicians and bureaucrats literally become parasites surviving off those that create prosperity and well-being for themselves, others and society. Working-class citizens -- from high-risk entrepreneurs to laborers to scientists to farmers -- literally become the host for government parasites.

The mob is growing increasingly restless and the politicians and bureaucrats magician-like illusions -- aided by a complicit media and academics -- are fast being cast aside by the light of fully integrated honesty.

19 posted on 10/10/2002 12:48:25 PM PDT by Zon
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20 posted on 10/10/2002 1:22:30 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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